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    I sympathize with you for assuming she is just awkward and does not understand how to behave civilly. I think that can be true for some people, especially the very young who are just entering college. Some people grow out of being jerks eventually, but a lot of people don't. It's understandable to want to see a person's potential. At the same time it's confusing, because a lot of people with hostile personalities are that way no matter what, and it's not worth it to offer them acceptance.

    But considering the idea that an entire community/culture is promoting violence against women, under a validating belief system. So each individual appears brainwashed/confused when they promote abuse of women using that same script:

    That's actually no different than all violence against women in general. A LOT of abusers of women make their abuse seem valid or use groupthink/rape culture as validation. It's no different. I think it's difficult to recognize when you see that violent outlook right in front of you, or all around you, in common everyday people. Abusers usually ARE the common everyday people. The ones you're expected to work with, get along with, large groups of friendly people, people who are nice to you, people who are not nice to you.

    Every single person who participates in promoting violence against women, no matter how normal they make it sound (they're not saying anything that other people aren't already saying.) Are, each and every one, a toxic person and they are making things less safe for women.

    I don't see this argument as a fight, personally, I just felt like trying to show it from a different viewpoint.