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[–]Erised 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I also genuinely want to know, who are these Gucci-booted white women supposedly taking over the woke movement for their own benefit? In my personal bubble, all the woke white women I know are all posting in support of BLM and are pretty well aware of their white privilege.

I know there are the stereotypical “Karen’s” who call the police on black people minding their own business, and that’s completely wrong on their part— but I don’t think these women are “woke” or “feminist” to begin with. They’re typically the ones pushing FOR stereotypical gender roles, not fighting against them.

I got the impression that this rant was just a safe excuse for Bill burr to shit on women (since it’s not like he really lays out WHAT exactly is wrong and how white women need to change).

But BIPOC people, I genuinely want to know— is there’s something I’m missing?

[–]BEB 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Gucci-booted white women (who I don't think exist, but I think Burr means rich white women) are the lib fems, who are actively working as Kapos for the Transtapo.

So if these women are indeed taking over WOKE, they're not doing it for the benefit of other women.

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I know what he meant, LOL. But "Gucci-booted" struck me as oddly specific. And it rang totally false. There's no indication that Gucci boots - or Gucci anything - have become the must-have footwear for white women in the US of any political persuasion.

For reasons having absolutely nothing to do with feminism or Bill Burr, I happen to be on the Gucci mailing list and follow Gucci trends, so perhaps I am more attuned than most to how rarefied, ridiculously pricey and incredibly ugly Gucci fashion and Gucci women's boots are. Maybe I've been in lockdown too long and have imbibed too many "locktails" over the course of the COVID-19 pandemic, but I really find it hard to believe that American women of any political persuasion are rushing in droves to spend $800 to upwards of $2,400 for boots like these, particularly at a time of great economic hardship, LOL:

https://www.gucci.com/us/en/ca/women/shoes-for-women/boots-and-booties-for-women-c-women-shoes-boots-and-booties

Gucci boots don't show up in any search of either the most popular women's footwear trends, or specifically the most popular women's boot trends, in the USA or anywhere else.

Gucci boots don't rank among the most popular boots worn and favored by today's female fashion editors (many of whom are presumably white and libfem woke):

https://editorialist.com/style/best-boots/

Fast forward a few years, and I bet Bill Burr will be revealed as a foot fetishist with a thing for wearing Gucci boots himself, or who fantasizes about having sex with white women in Gucci boots who who walk all over him. LOL. No doubt in his formative years his erotic imagination was influenced by media like this: https://youtu.be/SbyAZQ45uww

BTW, the Gucci brand does feature in a number of popular songs. But seems to me these are songs by American black male rappers about their own tastes and subculture, and thus aren't really relevant to white women:

https://youtu.be/4LfJnj66HVQ

https://youtu.be/Amlx73Z0sHY

https://youtu.be/9iCd6UHR-3I

Then again, perhaps Bill Burr is suggesting that the 2011 internet sensation Kreasyshawn of "Gucci Gucci" fame and infamy is the model for American white women in 2020, LOL:

https://youtu.be/6WJFjXtHcy4

https://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/the-kreayshawn-myth/Content?oid=2862409

The point is, nothing Burr said in his misogynistic diatribe rings true.

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I also genuinely want to know, who are these Gucci-booted white women supposedly taking over the woke movement for their own benefit?

The Gucci reference really threw me. Everyone I know thinks most Gucci stuff is quite quite tacky, and wouldn't buy it even if they could afford it.

The only people I've ever heard of to be head over heels for Gucci are hip hop starts and the writer Buzz Bissinger, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of the book "Friday Night Lights," and the excellent article "Shattered Glass" that led to also excellent movie of the same name. In 2013 at age 59 came out publicly as suffering from a self-described "Gucci addiction."

Buzz B loves Gucci coz Gucci men's wear feeds his admitted leather fetish and makes him feel edgy, hot and rock 'n' roll rather than like the portly, short, balding, middle-aged married man and father he actually is. Also his flamboyant Gucci leather gear provides him with "the cinematic excitement of engorging flesh."

And Buzz B says Gucci women's wear especially makes him feel "sexy" and "liberated and alive." From his 2013 "coming out" article:

I have an addiction. It isn't drugs or gambling: I get to keep what I use after I use it. But there are similarities: the futile feeding of the bottomless beast and the unavoidable psychological implications, the immediate hit of the new that feels like an orgasm and the inevitable coming-down.

It started three years ago. I have never fully revealed it, and am only revealing it now in the hopes that my confession will incite a remission and perhaps help others of similar compulsion. If all I buy is Gucci, I will be fine. It has taken a while to figure out what works and what doesn't work, but Gucci men's clothing best represents who I want to be and have become—rocker, edgy, tight, bad boy, hip, stylish, flamboyant, unafraid, raging against the conformity that submerges us into boredom and blandness and the sexless saggy sackcloths that most men walk around in like zombies without the cinematic excitement of engorging flesh.

I own eighty-one leather jackets, seventy-five pairs of boots, forty-one pairs of leather pants, thirty-two pairs of haute couture jeans, ten evening jackets, and 115 pairs of leather gloves. Those who conclude from this that I have a leather fetish, an extreme leather fetish, get a grand prize of zero. And those who are familiar with my choices will sign affidavits attesting to the fact that I wear leather every day. The self-expression feels glorious, an indispensable part of me. As a stranger said after admiring my look in a Gucci burgundy jacquard velvet jacket and a Burberry black patent leather trench, "You don't give a fuck."

I don't. I finally don't.

Some of the clothing is men's. Some is women's. I make no distinction. Men's fashion is catching up, with high-end retailers such as Gucci and Burberry and Versace finally honoring us. But women's fashion is still infinitely more interesting and has an unfair monopoly on feeling sexy, and if the clothing you wear makes you feel the way you want to feel, liberated and alive, then fucking wear it. The opposite, to repress yourself as I did for the first fifty-five years of my life, is the worst price of all to pay. The United States is a country that has raged against enlightenment since 1776; puritanism, the guiding lantern, has cast its withering judgment on anything outside the narrow societal mainstream. Think it's easy to be different in America? Try something as benign as wearing stretch leather leggings or knee-high boots if you are a man.

https://www.gq.com/story/buzz-bissinger-shopaholic-gucci-addiction

Not surprisingly, Bissinger is good friends with Cailtyn Jenner and has penned Jenner's official bio about Jenner's "journey to becoming a woman."