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[–]anxietyaccount8 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You know, I used to think some radfems were exaggerating that some people are extra hateful because we're women. I was thinking, "nah, it's because of our views, TRAs would be just as mad if we're male." But now I'm starting to think it's actually true.

Imagine if JKR was a male author...I can't see this level of backlash happening. I feel like people would get over it much more easily.

[–]Erised 38 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 0 fun39 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I’ve noticed recently that the large majority of Youtubers who consistently produce GC content tend to be male. On the one hand, I’m glad that there’s channels out there that debate and critique the illogical concepts TRA circles are trying to push. But on the other hand, it does sadden me that the only way a GC channel can survive (i.e. not get brigaded with death/rape threats, doxxed, or deleted by mods) is if there’s a man in front of the camera.

And the whole Joe Rogan thing? The only episode these Spotify employees seem to have an issue with is the Abigail Shrier episode, even though he’s had multiple episodes with men criticizing the trans movement.

And let’s not forget Ricky Gervais or Dave Chapelle. Both of their recent stand up routines have trans jokes and both of them explain how their jokes aren’t transphobic because... comedy. I don’t recall SNL EVER calling out Gervais or Chappelle. In fact, Gervais got to host the gold globes just a year after his “transphobic” remarks and everyone applauded him for “sPeAkInG tRuTh To PoWeR” (Hollywood celebrities being out of touch with reality? Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?)

Meanwhile, JKR gets attacked for pointing out that the co-opting language and changing the original meanings of words is harmful to biological women.

But no, that couldn’t have ANYTHING to do with the fact she’s a woman, right?

[–]peaked2020 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

She isn’t even simply being criticized... she’s being torn apart and considered worthless. I can only think of similar levels of hate being directed towards true monsters like Epstein. Yet this for a woman who has consistently fought for minorities for decades.

[–]Erised 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When the whole R Kelly stuff came into the public sphere for the second time (let’s be real, we knew for well over a decade he was abusing girls), I clearly remember Pete Davidson doing a bit on Weekend Update about how it’s fine to still listen to R Kelly’s music even though he’s raped multiple women and girls.

[–]blahblahgcer 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Anthony Jeselnik (a comedian known for horribly dark humour) had a bit where he said that trans people are the current "untouchable" group of comedy. It's kind of nice to see that that seems to be changing just a little bit.

[–]BEB 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I heard Merrill Markoe being interviewed a few years ago. You young ones won't remember her, but she was a prominent prominent US writer for a long time and IMO genuinely very funny.

In the interview, she was asked about what comedy subjects were untouchable and of course she said, transgenders, and the way she talked about it, it seemed to me she was thinking of TiMs. She was indignant at how hard their lives were.

And I just thought - seriously? Look around, lady.

TiMs choose how they appear to the world, they can lose their "oppression" simply by changing their appearance. Can women?

Can Yazidi and Nigerian girls in sexual slavery lose their oppression? Can girls in Saudi Arabia or the women being killed in Mexico? Can American women forced to ride a bus late at night terrified what will happen when they get off?

Merrill Markoe can fuck right off with her Men's Rights Activism.

OK- Just looked Markoe up - she's got an audio book just out and guess what it's called?!?!?

'The Indignities of Being a Woman.'

This women, who think that TiMs are the most oppressed "women" on Earth has the nerve to write a book on the indignities of being a woman.

Hey Merrill, TiMs CHOOSE their oppression. We don't.

[–]slushpilot 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Women's voices are a greater threat because they speak from experience. It's similar to when black people inconveniently speak out of step with current politics.

They must be silenced more strongly because they might have an irrefutably valid point and are not so easily dismissed.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Who are the GC male youtubers?

This is kind of surprising to me because all the ones I follow are women - Kellie-Jay Keen, Maria MacLachlan, Not the fun kind, and Radical Responses.

[–]denverkris 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Benjamin Boyce is one, he just had Donovan Cleckley on but I haven't watched the episode yet.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't characterize Boyce as "gender critical." He's become skeptical of the extremes of trans activism, but he believes that the vast majority of humans are innately wired for sex-linked personality traits, interests, behaviors and roles in the personal sphere and broader society that are markedly different for males and females. He believes that these differences are innate, and that they are beneficial.

BB's concern seems to be with the authoritarian, tyrannical nature of extreme gender ideology and the threat the trans movement and wokeyness pose to free speech - not with the sexism, sex stereotypes and misogyny that is "gender."

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Mario Lopez (guy from Saved by the Bell) got some hate for saying you shouldn't trans kids but it blew over in like a week (he caved and apologized). John Cleese gets no hate besides some angry TRAs on twitter. Joe Rogan... well, angry TRAs are trying to get his trans episodes banned on spotify but he himself is not getting backlash in the news the way Rowling is despite having the same positions and views as her. Dave Chappelle... crickets (although in his last comedy special he said he was semi-retiring due to all the people quietly trying to cancel him).

edit: Here are Mario Lopez's comments. I'm sharing because it's nice to hear sanity from celebrities every once in a while.

[–]BEB 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Joe Rogan also just recently spoke out about Spotify's employees' attempt to cancel his Abigail Shrier/ trans kids episode, and sort of compared the transing of children to a cult.

I posted a link to Rogan's remarks (he does go out on a limb a bit) so if you're interested please scroll down.