Joe Rogan finally speaks on Spotify/Abigail Shrier trans kids controversy. Is Joe Rogan a secret TERF?

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[–]CastleHoward 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

We are all secret TERFs. Everyone needs to stop apologising.

[–]BEB[S] 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I keep thinking how did valid criticism of extreme transgender activism become so verboten so fast?

TiMs make up a shocking percentage of serial killers. They commit crimes at much higher rates than even normal men, including sex crimes. There are cases and cases of TiM crimes in women's bathrooms - yet we are not allowed to talk about these FACTS.

I think we need to stop apologizing and go on the warpath, by which I mean bring up the facts. These aren't all harmless, cross-dressing gay men with their dicks cut off, some of them are indeed harmless (which doesn't mean I want them naked next to me) but a lot of them are hate-filled misogynists constantly threatening women.

We need to make this known, because if we continue with the false narrative that we are the witches and they are the saints, they get our rights, our sports and our spaces.

[–]CastleHoward 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If they can make you say that some men are women they can make you say anything. If you agree to this you will be a smaller and weaker person. There are enough of us to protect each other, just barely. Close your eyes and imagine saying out loud "Transwomen are Women. They have always been Women. There is no way to distinguish between transwomen and ciswomen". Could you live with yourself?

[–]BEB[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely.

Now, I say it all the time; I lost my fear of saying it about six months ago, and that fear was only because it might have had job implications, but now it doesn't.

And I approach the issue by talking about women and gay rights, and the conflict of rights between trans activist demands and our rights. I also throw in free speech, parents rights, children's health and science.

So I don't frame it as I want trans activists not to have everything they're demanding, I frame it as women have rights and sex-segregated spaces for which we fought and if they are taken from us, and as we find out they've been taken, first off we are going to scream bloody murder, and second off we are not going to support your political party/ corporation/ organization/ university and you will tank because women make up more than half the world.

And the parent thing gets to people, because no one wants the government to have the ability to supercede parents' rights when it comes to their child's health

Also, the sex-segregated spaces gets to other women.

So I kind of tailor my speech to who I am talking to, but I do try to get it all in there - biology, women/gay/parents rights, free speech, children's mental and physical health.

For instance, my university recently called for funds. I let them have it (very politely) because they are spouting trans activist propaganda on campus.

As each of us speak out to our ability to speak out, it will make it easier for other women to speak out. And that's what has to happen. Very soon, in the US.

[–]our_team_is_winning 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There is no way to distinguish between transwomen and ciswomen". Could you live with yourself?

I will NEVER use the non-word "ciswomen" unless I am being sarcastic or quoting the Woke. I always put "transwoman" in quotes too, because it sounds like a kind of WOMAN when it is a type of MAN.

[–]BEB[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't use cis and I sure don't use transwomen: I used to say "men who claim to be women" but that often confuses the hell out of the person I'm speaking to - I can almost see the wheels turning in their heads as they to figure out whether I mean a man or a woman.

So now I used Trans Identified Male and then explain it as "a man who claims to be a woman"

Everything about gendxr ideology is designed to confuse.

[–]assignedcopatbirth 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I think he'd be more upset that someone called him a radfem than transphobic lol