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[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

While it may not fit the legal definition of child pornography, it is definitely exploitative of the underage actors.

Not to mention some of the scenes are super sketchy. There was way too much sexualization of the little girls in that film to be accidental, in my opinion. The camera lingers on their prepubescent bodies (especially their butts and crotches) way too often, that one scene with the horny security guard was played off for laughs, and most of all the supposed "don't sexualize children!" message of the film gets lost when the movie spends so much of its runtime sexualizing its child actresses.

[–]worried19 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I thought the message of the movie was clear, although to be honest, my main problem was that the lead kid is not that sympathetic. Like I understood she was supposed to be tired of her family's patriarchal religion, but it's not like she was being abused or mistreated at home. The whole thing with her dad didn't seem like it was enough to warrant that type of rebellion. And that group of girls she was trying to befriend were just evil brats. Of course I wanted to take the (mostly unseen) parents to task for letting those kids run wild like that.

As for the scenes themselves exploiting the children, I suppose I think of it the same way I would think of a kid filming a rape or molestation scene. There are scenes like that in movies. I sure as hell wouldn't let my kid act one out, but some parents do, and it's way worse stuff than what these little girls were filmed doing.

[–]MezozoicGay 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As for the scenes themselves exploiting the children

Abuse can be shown and explained without doing an abuse.

If I want to make a movie against conversion therapy on gay men, I will not take gay man and use electroshock on them to convert into straight - and then say "see, it is bad, he is suffering!".

You do not need to be abusive yourself to show that abuse is bad and that people are suffering from it.

You can't fight with problem while multiplying this problem yourself and being a part of the problem.

I suppose I think of it the same way I would think of a kid filming a rape or molestation scene

So when they will film new movie about child sexual abuse or molestions, it is fine for them to make sexual abuse or molestion scenery on girl actresses to film it for the movie? Sounds very absurd.

[–]worried19 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But they do film those kinds of scenes with kids. Obviously no kid is getting raped for real, just like no woman is getting raped for real. But they get the kid to act it out. If Cuties were to be made illegal, those scenes should be made illegal, too. I don't see how you can film a rape or molestation scene with a kid and not have it affect the kid.

Did you watch the movie?

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I sure as hell wouldn't let my kid act one out, but some parents do, and it's way worse stuff than what these little girls were filmed doing.

Worried, come on: just because some parents make their kids do way worse stuff - whether for cameras or other reasons - doesn't excuse or justify what the adults behind Cuties - the director, producer and crew - made these young girls do for the cameras.

The fact that kids in many parts of the world are forced into child slave labor and child soldiering, and many kids are sold and trafficked for sex, does not mean it's OK for parents in other parts of the world to beat their children or allow them to be groomed and abused by pedophiles.

[–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

made these young girls do for the cameras.

And how many more girls they had on casting...

[–]worried19 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you think an 11 year old girl filming a rape scene should be outlawed?

Curious if you saw the film.

[–]PassionateIntensity 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe! Depending on exactly what the scene is--there are already laws about what young actors can and can't perform, because it's exploitative. It's not a blanket ban, it's a fine line the director has to walk. I think Doucoure failed walking that line.

[–]PassionateIntensity 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't understand why those scenes had to be in the film. It could have--did make--its case without them. Those parts undermine the anti-exploitation message imo. The director should have taken one look at that footage and fucking burned it.