MtF realizes it's hard to be a woman way too late.

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[–]crodish 43 insightful - 1 fun43 insightful - 0 fun44 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I want to sympathize but at the same time, were all these people who regret it just plugging their ears when GC disagreed with them? So many times I keep hearing things like "no one stopped me or told me I didn't have to" but it's all OUT THERE.

I'm very surprised this dude's family is still together for him, I hope once he does drop it that he'll have a more peaceful life.

[–]denverkris 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"no one stopped me or told me I didn't have to" but it's all OUT THERE

I don't think the people who are considering transition want to hear any dissenting voices, and TRA's have gone to a great deal of trouble to make sure anyone providing any opinion other than "YES DO IT! SO BRAVE AND STUNNING! UWU!" gets painted as a bigot. I've seen a couple of posts like this in honesttransgender and a few other places on reddit as well, I think I may have even posted in one. It was the same thing, OP was opining about how hard it was being a woman, and I responded "Yes. Did you think it would be easy?" which was actually well received by the OP and we went on to have a very decent convo, much to the horror of many of the other people in the sub.

Creating these echo chambers is soooo harmful. No one gets a well rationed opinion on any complicated subject.

[–]Anonimouse 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Beyond the support messages, they also pull out of a lot of "sociology" or gender studies citations to make it seem like everything is on their side and TERF is just the new racist.

[–]denverkris 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, or we're all just "religious alt right nazis" or something. I'm a bisexual atheist who only dated women for about 25 years and up until a few years ago was staunchly left leaning AND a supporter of "trans rights". They took it way too far and tipped me over.

[–]Anonimouse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Similar. Was (and still am) far left, but the trans ideology just kept pushing for more insane things. Funnily enough, the tra's I knew were basically for gender abolition, except when needed to reinforce trans identity.

ETA: the peakening, though not interesting enough for the thread, was realising that the discourse was going from sex and gender aren't the same, gender is the social performative bit; to claiming sex is also a spectrum, and arbitrariliy asigned. Basically, AMAB/AFAB did it.