MtF realizes it's hard to be a woman way too late.

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[–]crodish 43 insightful - 1 fun43 insightful - 0 fun44 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I want to sympathize but at the same time, were all these people who regret it just plugging their ears when GC disagreed with them? So many times I keep hearing things like "no one stopped me or told me I didn't have to" but it's all OUT THERE.

I'm very surprised this dude's family is still together for him, I hope once he does drop it that he'll have a more peaceful life.

[–]blahblahgcer 38 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 0 fun39 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

As someone who id detrans: you can avoid any people saying anything very, very easily. GC on reddit was "bad" because of the transphobia, so why would I read it? And everywhere else is massively pro trans.

Is it any wonder I detransitioned like a week after finding /r/gc?

[–]BEB 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good for you and very glad you're here!

[–]spinell 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is a whole world outside reddit.

[–]Comatoast 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's a disconnect from reality. Think of it similarly to women that won't leave deadbeats. They have friends that tell them for years to go. Seemingly it has to be the right wording, like an effing incantation that calls them to the senses; verbal smelling salts. That's when it all comes rushing back.

[–]Complicated-Spirit 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That’s....not the same. A “deadbeat” is often the same guy who will ignore any kind of court order to stay away from you and hunt you down for leaving him. A woman staying with a man she’s afraid of isn’t a simple matter of “she must just be stupid to choose to stay”.

[–]Comatoast 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's very much a stalker, not a deadbeat. I'm just talking about dudes that do bare minimum and leech off of their girlfriends/wives, expecting them to do all of the everything. Lazy fuckers.

Good job though, you had me hanging there and my second guessing myself game was strong. I had to look up the definition on google. This is not to shit on you, it's been Hell Week.

[–]carvedapple 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just talking about dudes that do bare minimum and leech off of their girlfriends/wives, expecting them to do all of the everything. Lazy fuckers.

To be honest I kinda got that vibe from the op in that Reddit post. I don't want to be mean, but his wife has removed his hair for him and he's tired of it...? I wonder what else she does for him. His make-up?

[–]denverkris 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"no one stopped me or told me I didn't have to" but it's all OUT THERE

I don't think the people who are considering transition want to hear any dissenting voices, and TRA's have gone to a great deal of trouble to make sure anyone providing any opinion other than "YES DO IT! SO BRAVE AND STUNNING! UWU!" gets painted as a bigot. I've seen a couple of posts like this in honesttransgender and a few other places on reddit as well, I think I may have even posted in one. It was the same thing, OP was opining about how hard it was being a woman, and I responded "Yes. Did you think it would be easy?" which was actually well received by the OP and we went on to have a very decent convo, much to the horror of many of the other people in the sub.

Creating these echo chambers is soooo harmful. No one gets a well rationed opinion on any complicated subject.

[–]Anonimouse 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Beyond the support messages, they also pull out of a lot of "sociology" or gender studies citations to make it seem like everything is on their side and TERF is just the new racist.

[–]denverkris 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, or we're all just "religious alt right nazis" or something. I'm a bisexual atheist who only dated women for about 25 years and up until a few years ago was staunchly left leaning AND a supporter of "trans rights". They took it way too far and tipped me over.

[–]Anonimouse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Similar. Was (and still am) far left, but the trans ideology just kept pushing for more insane things. Funnily enough, the tra's I knew were basically for gender abolition, except when needed to reinforce trans identity.

ETA: the peakening, though not interesting enough for the thread, was realising that the discourse was going from sex and gender aren't the same, gender is the social performative bit; to claiming sex is also a spectrum, and arbitrariliy asigned. Basically, AMAB/AFAB did it.