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[–]WrongToy[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Sen. Scott Wiener, a Democrat from San Francisco who authored the bill, said he doesn’t expect that exception to be used very often.

“It’s just a false narrative about transgender people and about transgender women in particular that they’re somehow not really women and are just trying to scam their way into women’s bathrooms or facilities in order to do bad things,” Wiener said. “Overwhelmingly the people who are being victimized are trans people.”

Weiner, meet Jessica Yaniv. Or half of r/mtf. Or those dainty flowers swinging barbed wire bats at libraries while exhibiting shirts that say they "kill terfs."

i know that's too intersectional for your tiny head, the one over your shoulders here, so explain how more Yanivs wouldn't happen.

[–]BEB 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Scott Wiener is just so evil. But then so is every member of the California legislature that voted for this and Governor Scammin' Newsom too.

The women officers are going to have to search these TiMs and non-binaries, which must be a violation of their human rights?

[–]WrongToy[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Who cares what they say their gender is. The fundamental issue is whether they have a penis and balls, not how they identify.

I don't actually know whether female custodial staff is required to physically handle females. I do know that there are a lot of men in corrections and that they observe quite a bit as it is.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm assuming that staff has to do intimate searches of prisoners? At least that's what happens in the movies ;-)

The articles I've read on this law said that staff has to treat the TiM as the sex he identifies with, so that would mean female prison staff would have to touch his genitals, I'm pretty sure. Anyone know?

[–]WrongToy[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is what's supposed to happen according to Prison Rape Eradication Act of 2002, revised twice through 2012.

A person is supposed to present themselves to medical for a general checkup. If the genitals are observed, they may be noted, but noting the genitals themselves cannot be the primary purpose of the checkup.

Body cavity physical searches are infrequent. i'm not sure but wouldn't be surprised if a female guard's duties included looking up men's asses,

I would hope it would be different for the women, for very obvious reasons. There are only two prisons in california that are fully female; another is about 1/4 by floor. There used to be three, but one shut down and males were moved into it.