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[–]WrongToy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They have them. San Quentin, Folsom, RJD, pretty sure Corcoran. The plum location though is Mule Creek State Prison in Ione. Probably half the population there is "gender-divergent" as it is.

if this was a safety issue they would have just made plans for DVI to stay open for another year and put them there or Ione. But note that's not enough for the "women" to be put with their own. Nope, only being put with actual women will do.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So the TiMs could have been placed in a secure unit, but want to be in with actual women, so this is very much a deliberate attack on women's privacy, dignity and safety, and a lie on the part of Scott Wiener?

[–]WrongToy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

From about 2002-2010, they'd routinely segregate prisoners into two broad groups: the general population--who used to be segregated by race both by their own assertion and assisted by the staff--and the "special needs population" who could not choose whom to room with. The SNY population included gays, trans and especially gang dropouts. In contrast, California's two female prisons have never had an sny yard.

Anyways, around 2012 they decided that because people sort of behaved in Sny, they should expand that model to GP. They were under court order anyway for the racial...so that spurred a movement to integrate everyone for any reason by unit as much as possible.

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So right now TiMs are forced to be in the general male population?

[–]WrongToy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It depends on facility. They'll generally house TIMs separately if they request. It should actually be the first-line option. Like I said, even now, there are trans dorms and even units already. In male prison.

So why push it? I mean, why did Michaele Norsworthy (the murderer who got srs out of SQ in 2015) push it? He was already at San Quentin, which despite its reputation is a model of prison rehab. Their media projects are advised by journo professors at Cal and Columbia, and they have been Pulitzer finalists. People from Google come out to train people to code. The Warriors have recruited from their namesake prison team. Its firefighters are trusted in not just the village (guards) but southern Marin in general. It has a dedicated and accredited college.

And one of the journos wrote about how, actually, TW are very accepted at San Quentin among this population of men who are all trying to do their program so that they can get good time and get released.

Most long-termers there are lifers with dates like this guy had. But no, that wasn't enough. He needed to be with actual women.

After a long-term battle--which "she her" Kamala fought for the state--it was determined that the state would have to pay for his bottom surgery, after which he'd get sent to Chowchilla, or Chino.

The tools of rape, or at least some crucial ones, were removed from the murderer's body at his request. Spendy, but a better line than saying any intact male can just identify right into Chowchilla, no srs, no hormones, no wig or whatever required...like it makes a difference anyway.