Seems like a lot has happened while I was away!

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[–]BEB 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know I sound like a stuck record, but, while a huge fan of Ovarit and all the other women-only spaces (!!!), if we stay over there solely we are not going to get the lurkers and hate readers we got from Reddit. They grew r/gendercritical from a few thousand to over 60,000.

So I think that we should encourage people to join the women-only spaces but also retain presences on broader forums like SAIDIT, because otherwise we might just end up talking to ourselves when we need allies more than ever.

[–]Metis 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's something I keep thinking about and it quite upsets me tbh. While I really appreciate to have these spaces online and would love to finally get to join ovarit, they are very much niche websites I feel no one without a preceding interest in the topic will ever find. I found the gender critical community because a guy (as in a "cis" male) lectured me on r/feminism about the dangers of terfs and since I could relate to the articles he posted and described as "terfy", I googled terf and found r/GC. If there is no visible dissent on huge websites like reddit, I feel like people who could relate to a gender critical viewpoint will never know that they could join this movement to fight TRA ideology or even that there is a movement at all. I wish there was a way we could contact all of the 60k subscribers on reddit to redirect them to ovarit and saidit or at least make ovarit the top result when someone googles the meaning of terf. Getting banned from Reddit was a huge setback for the gender critical community in my eyes and I completely agree with you that we need to find a way to organise to also remain visible on mainstream websites.

[–]jelliknight 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My hope is that Ovarit will expand to other topics like parenting, crafts and so on. We will never be welcome on reddit or twitter, they're even shutting us down on mumsnet. We need our own space. Then, we need to invite everyone else in too. The discussions have to be had there or they can't be had at all, so we do need to let everyone in at some point (while reserving the GC spaces and some feminist spaces for ourselves)