Thread by @LaraAdamsMille1: "Something you should realize about autogynephiles: They can’t stop. AGP functions more like an addiction than an orientation or identity.

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[–]CleverNickName 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So, because of the replies on twitter: What's the counter to "AGP isn't real, it's based on really flimsy science and has never been able to be reproduced."?

I mean, it's all a very fitting description of many men - I have personally known one who came out to me as "trans" but ticks almost all the AGP boxes - but how come it can describe people so precisely but be so unscientific (if it is)?

[–]anonymale 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The counter is "yes it has".

A Further Assessment of Blanchard’s Typology of Homosexual Versus Non-Homosexual or Autogynephilic Gender Dysphoria

Extending the studies reviewed above, transvestic fetishism was much higher among the non-homosexuals (82.6%) compared to the homosexuals (9.6%).

[–]CleverNickName 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks. Had doubts, asked a question, got an answer. I love science.

[–]anonymale 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If only more people did. Actually they wouldn't have to love it, just take it seriously. Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air?

[–]anonymale 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Comment on the paper from Anne Lawrence and expanded on by Kay Brown, both HSTSs.

Lawrence:

Nuttbrock et al. did not emphasize that their results provided a significant validation of Blanchard’s typology, but this is, in fact, their most important finding.

Brown:

Nuttbrock et al. ... make the rather astounding conclusion that only the older generation of trans-folk have or will have autogynephilic arousal to cross-dressing, since in their view, the “exotic” nature of cross-dressing will become a thing of the past, and thus not lead to the development of sexually arousing fetishistic cross-dressing...

My own prediction is that nothing of the sort will happen. Late transitioning, autogynephilic transsexuals of the future are already in the making, marrying their girlfriends, dealing with their autogynephilic nature as best they can, dreaming that someday that they too will be ready to live full-time as women and get SRS and HRT. After-all… I heard this very same prediction 30 years ago… that everyone in the near future would be transitioning young, as it was no longer difficult to seek out SRS/HRT, given the easy availability. Nothing changed.

[–]lefterfield 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since identity is sacrosanct to TRAs, I sometimes say that there are men who identify as AGP. They're usually somewhat ashamed by it, but they recognize the behavior in themselves.

[–]anonymale 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My god this is poetry.