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[–]vitunrotta[S] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Well put and spot on. It is, however, infuriating (almost impressive...) how well this snake oil was marketed as something progressive. If you scrape just a little bit you'll find out there is nothing "liberal" here - it's the same ol' misogyny, wrapped in some wokist cape. And the most horrifying thing is that people are buying into this as if it were the new gay rights movement.

IT'S NOT THE SAAAAAMEEEEE screams into the void

[–]MezozoicGay 23 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

I'd say it is even worse, because "Church conservatives" were conservative and easy to spot on, and they were honest with homophobia and misogyny, while current generation is redefining words, showing themselves as progressive and hiding homophobia and misogyny behind progressive packaging. And unlike previous conservatives, who disliked LGB and women, current ones are explicitely hating them and trying to destroy completely, destroy even the sole idea of such things existing.

[–]vitunrotta[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup. When the church conservatives (whichever church it may be) start being "woke," that alone should set off multiple alarms in so-called progressives' heads. Yet - stunning silence ensues. They are, after all, a match made in heaven. Pun intended.

[–]PeakingPeachEater 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yep, the church conservatives are much easier to spot. My Catholic family members say outright that women are supposed to be submissive to men as well as one man and one woman, and that men can't lie with men BS.

I hate this new "progressive" crap, it is very much disengenuous. People will out you for not agreeing with their "progressiveness".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

I don't want my wife to be a submissive thing who does everything I say, but I got mad at her for leaving her $900 phone on the floor after asking her half a dozen times not to do that and I said to her, if I tell you to do something, and it's reasonable, you should do it. Maybe that's how women should be "submissive" to their husbands. To do things they're told to do that are perfectly reasonable. Because otherwise, I'm worried one of these days I won't see it on the floor and accidentally break it like what happened to her glasses.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't know if this post is serious.

Are you submissive to your wife? If you left the toilet seat up constantly would you submit to her request to put it down so that she doesn't have to get urine on her thighs, or accidentally fall into the toilet if she stumbles in at night and doesn't notice the seat's up?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It's as serious as I ever get, although I understand that's not really an answer.

It's funny you mention the toliet seat, some 21 years ago I argued successfully that it was sexist for me to have to put the toliet seat down so I don't. That's different though, me having to put the toliet seat down 100% of the time when I need it up over half is an imposition while her not leaving her phone on the floor just makes sense.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I would divorce you over the toilet seat being up. I am not joking.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It makes sense, to require one thing of one sex but not the other is inherently sexist. Also there is an implication women are too inferior to have to put a toliet seat down.

But don't worry, you'd never have a chance with me to divorce me.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's common courtesy for the man to put the seat down so that the next person who has a bowel movement, whatever sex they are, doesn't sit on urine, or, as has happened to me in the dark, fall halfway in the toilet.

But I can see from your last sentence that common courtesy is not something you were taught.

This is a women's forum by the way, so, rather than insulting women, perhaps you'd be best served by finding a men's forum - I'm sure SAIDIT must have some version of MGTOW for you to shit all over women on?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You misunderstand, you wouldn't have a chance with me because as I said, I have been married for 21 years.

Please go fuck off, I don't particularly enjoy talking to idiots.