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[–][deleted] 37 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

All I'd say it that speech is not violence. Speech is not violence. SPEECH IS NOT VIOLENCE!

I can tell because JK Rowling hasn't murdered anyone.

edit: this video is basically that convo. "Violence is not a subjective feeling, violence is an objective fact."

[–]Feather 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you think that the groups "people who think speech is violence" vs. "people who know speech is not violence" correspond (in the same order) to "people who have not been subjected to physical violence" vs. "people who have been subjected to physical violence"?

I find it difficult to imagine that someone who's been punched in the face could believe that speech is equivalent to that.

Of course, there are grey areas, like literal incitement to violence. But they're the ones who engage in that, what with all the encouragement to punch or shoot women who disagree with them.

[–]lefterfield 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not even never been punched in the face, it's hard to believe they've ever been afraid for their safety. It's a level of being sheltered that is hard to believe a real person is capable of. I've never been punched, but I have been sexually assaulted, and been in the company of men who were deliberately trying to intimidate me physically... doesn't compare to speech. Not even violent, racist, misogynist speech. I don't know what's wrong with people who don't understand the difference.

[–]catoboros 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Free speech is a human right, and yes, that includes freedom from disproportionate consequences. There are exceptions, including directed speech that causes actual harm, including harassment, bullying, and psychological domestic violence, not to mention incitement to actual violence, but disagreeing is never violence.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Speech can incite violence (cough Trump rallies), however that does not apply to Rowling's words either. They are just full of shit. This is emotional blackmail. "Speak as I speak or I will kill myself and it will be your fault." If this was a relationship we'd recognize it for what it is.