Can we talk about Netflix "Cuties"? Men--dads--tell me it's no big deal

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[–]worried19 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I saw the movie. The point of the film was to be horrified by the environment these kids are in. At least that was my take on it. Watching it was was an uncomfortable experience, which was what the director intended. To shove the premature sexualization of these young girls in the audience's face and get them to question a society that puts these girls in that position.

I viewed the movie as a condemnation of our society. These little girls mimic what they're told is adult female sexuality, but they have no idea what they're mimicking. Society's view of female sexuality is twisted and perverse, and to watch 11 year olds act it out points out how truly perverse and false it is. It's not just that it's premature, but completely pornified. This is no woman's natural sexuality.

The kid in the movie is going after what she's told is cool, no matter that it's false and dangerous. Her religion is patriarchal, but the wider world is just as patriarchal and oppressive, even though she's too young to realize it. There's no freedom in pornified sexualization. She can't escape patriarchy either way.

[–]WrongToy[S] 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Folks are telling me i'm not educated until i watch it. Well I unplugged netflix b/c basically i'd watched what i wanted to, and now they're saying that i should pay them to be "enlightened."

I saw what I needed to in the clips. Wanna make a anti-pedo movie, then contact your local PD for appropriate blurred footage, don't get stables of freaking 10 year olds to audition for twerking videos, select 30 of them, and put them in makeup.

This is NOT woke and it is NOT progressive (not I am not saying you are saying they are). This is the same crap that launched Pretty Baby and Blue Lagoon.

[–]worried19 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

I'm not saying you need to watch it, just giving my take on the movie.

I'm not familiar with the other films you mentioned, so I don't know how they compare to this one.

[–]WrongToy[S] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Pretty Baby came out in 1978 when Brooke Shields was 12. It was one of those "awareness" films as i take it--I never saw it because I'm about her age and it was rated R. I can tell you though that it certainly incentivized the curiosity of girls in my junior high, and trust me, no lack of men who'd just see that.

Blue Lagoon came out in 1981. i was 16 and snuck in and we're watching this double shag their bf while the mom cries tears of joy and we're like wtf, my mom would kill me. But the point is that never should have been released. Fucking tears of joy at being boned in full view of your parents. Hell no.

Child sexuality is a thing. It is a thing for them, not a thing to make R-rated movies for and profit from. It leads to things like Traci Lords.

Traci Lords is a former porn actress who started in 1983, when she was 15. She appeared in Penthouse when she was 16. She had a busty figure but her face was that of a child. When the feds finally found out, there was an uproar, and that launched the get pedos out of movies crusade.

Men have enough fap material as it is. It is bad enough with these "minor attracted persons" openly saying they're into 1-10 year olds on Twitter, and being followed by 'adult attracted minors" who claim to be 13.

It's bad enough. No more freaking cameltoe from 11 year olds. That is nauseating and sick and I don't care what this woman's wokeness quotient or her ethnicity or her race is. She could be Jerry Falwell Jr. and there'd be the same excuse, which is that there's no excuse.

[–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I'd have to watch those movies to have a comment on them. I looked them up on Wikipedia, and the Pretty Baby one sounds disturbing. Can't tell about Blue Lagoon.

[–]Thatstealthygal 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Blue Lagoon is a movie in which Brooke Shields and Christopher Atkins, who were both young (but he wasn't AS young), play shipwrecked kids who grow up on an idyllic island, discover sex, have a baby and eventually take a boat out to sea and eat poisoned berries to suicide. It's based on an Edwardian (I think) novel and it's both uncomfortable and hilariously bad.

I think OP means Endless Love, in which Brooke Shields plays a teenager who has sex for the first time while her super liberal mother watches joyfully (but unseen); later the boyfriend gets obsessed with her and it all goes horribly wrong.

There was a DEEP fascination with underage sexuality in the 70s, for certain.

Oh and Pretty Baby is DEEPLY disturbing. It's not an "awareness" film as I remember it - it's about a photographer who becomes fascinated by the women who work in a brothel at the turn of the last century, including the child daughter of one of the working girls whose virginity is sold to the highest bidder.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Maybe I am misremembering, but didn' t the director of Pretty Baby try to have Shields naked (or have a graphic sex scene) for it? I remember reading something like that, and that it wasn' t done only because the other actress in the movie (Susan Sarandon?) told the director to fuck off.

[–]Thatstealthygal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised. I'd forgotten that the storyline develops so that Brooke's character forms a sexual relationship with the photographer who simultaneously treats her like a father, and she's all of 12. It's extremely gross.

I think she's naked on a silver platter in the "auction" scene but in such a way that nothing is really seen.

[–]WrongToy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Y'all are triggering my memories of long ago Time magazine and my local paper going into how that was uncool at the time (1978). By 1982 however that same columnist was harping openly about how Shields was hot. Shields was 15 at the time.

I really dislike Shields, because when she came of age in 1985, she had a responsibility to step away from the "no one stands between me and my calvins" ads, not get more invested in them given that she was ONLY a celebrity because of her underage pedo-adjacent routine.

When Shields appeared in SVU as a grandma, I had to LOL. That woman has now had 37 years to acknowledge that what happened to her also affected an entire generation of young girls.

She has never acknowledged, let alone apologised.

[–]Thatstealthygal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm misremembering - the "auction scene" is online and she's wearing a dress that's basically like a fancy chemise. It's a horrible scene because it's like she does kind of understand but also has no real idea.

[–]worried19 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Thanks for explaining. Yeah, the Pretty Baby movie sounds incredibly disturbing and not something I would ever watch.

The Blue Lagoon doesn't sound terrible. But I'd have to actually watch it to get an accurate opinion. Both films are pretty old, and neither appears to be on Netflix.

[–]Thatstealthygal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Blue Lagoon is basically just terribly, terribly cheesy with dreadful dialogue delivered by two very pretty young people. Their "childlike" discussions about puberty are cringemaking. But it's not that "adult" really. Brooke Shields' hair is artfully draped over her boobs the whole time and she had body doubles for any actually nude scenes (eg when swimming).

[–]WrongToy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Neither of those CP adjacent films needs to be anywhere near distribution. Nor endless love (ty to the one who pointed that out--one of many CP adjacent films I insisted on getting into since it was all the rage and I as a child hadn't grasped CP yet).

Their mention here is a historic artifact that does not need to be watched by a new generation, ever.

[–]worried19 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So you think those movies should be banned? I get the problem with pedophiles, but don't pedophiles seek out any movie with a child in it? They don't need to go out and find a special movie. They can watch a commercial or any innocent kids' film and see the kinds of things they want.

[–]WrongToy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Difference between a kid doing normie stuff in movies and kids doing what was seen in this movie.