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[–]Veneficca 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I know a lot of conservative women like this. It's frustrating because so many of them seem to want the benefits of feminism AND the benefits of benevolent sexism and are never willing to challenge men or examine their own patriarchal complicity. They're happy to point out misogyny when another nation, religion or political party can be blamed, but when it's coming from inside the house? They almost always stay quiet. They want safety, respect and equal pay without the conflict of naming their own men as part of the problem.

That said, I also know women who feel judged about not being "pure" enough for feminism. To them, feminism isn't a place of support and positive change, it's a tribunal that will castigate them for wearing makeup, liking the wrong musicians and films, wanting to be a SAHM, etc. Or they read about sex-positive feminism and recoil because they don't see prostitution, porn or casual sex as good for women. I think a lot of women aren't even sure what a feminist platform is these days.

[–]NDG 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, my experience with feminism has never been about “support and positive change” for all women. It’s been mostly of the Ti-Grace Atkinson “sisterhood kills, mostly sisters” variety.

[–]penelopekitty 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If they think that they haven't bothered to do even the most basic research.

[–]NDG 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My offline encounters with self-declared feminists have almost all been with the “judgmental tribunal” types. Don’t dismiss other people’s experience as ignorance, please.

As for “what feminism is,” there are different schools of feminism claiming that totally opposing beliefs are feminist.

[–]penelopekitty 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you look into the history of feminism it's clear what the overall intent was. Today's feminism has been corrupted, people are ignorant of what the history was, and women who identify with men instead of thinking for themselves accept the smear campaign without question.

Just because a woman calls herself a feminist doesn't mean she is. Her actions are the determining factor. If people actually understood that the aim of feminism was to liberate women from patriarchy we wouldn't have so many divisions and so much ignorance around the subject.