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[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've looked through the literature on "precocious puberty" & its treatment, and nowhere have I seen any mention of exogenous T as a possible treatment for girls diagnosed with it. So I can't tell if Transgender Trend got that detail wrong, or if Olsen-Kennedy is now looking for a new set of young girls to pathologize, victimize and screw up with her spurious diagnoses and her entirely experimental "treatments" and "cures" for them.

I could be wrong, but I think precocious puberty comes with its own litany of health problems,

What traditionally has been labelled as "precious puberty" is actually a very wide range of different symptoms, many of which have been found to be due to very different underlying innate health conditions. I imagine that with time, specific causes will be found for many more cases of "precious puberty" now labelled "idiopathic."

Interestingly and to me worryingly, "PP" is 20 more times likely to be diagnosed in female children than in male children, though it's not clear if "PP" actually occurs more commonly in females at such a vastly higer rate.

Also, it's important to note that it's not necessary for a girls to have premature menarche to be diagnosed as having PP. Traditionally, girls have been diagnosed as having "precocious puberty" if they've developed any of the following before a certain age: breast growth (aka "thelarche"), pubic &/or underarm hair, growth spurt, acne, "adult body odor."

The (US) National Organization for Rare Diseases (NORD) says:

This disorder (precocious puberty) is classically characterized among females by breast development beginning before the age of eight years in white girls, 6.8 years for Hispanic girls and 6.6 years for Black girls, or the onset of menstruation before the age of approximately ten years (white-10.6 years, Hispanic-10.0 years and black-9.7 years).

As for treatment with puberty blockers, it seems many/most girls diagnosed with PP are being put on puberty blockers not coz they've already begun menstruating, but "to prevent early menarche" - and to "bring final adult height" closer to what's considered normal. But blockers see most effective in altering height not the other symptoms of PP. What's more blockers, work best for girls whose "precocious puberty" has started before they're six!

The aims of treatment are to arrest physical maturation, prevent early menarche, bring final adult height closer to genetic expectation and allow normal psychosocial development. Treatment with very potent, long acting GnRH analogues have resulted in significant improvement in height in many, although not all, children with PP caused by both organic conditions and idiopathic CPP, with the best treatment outcomes seen in those with onset of puberty before 6 years of age.

https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/precocious-puberty/

A recent article (Jan 2020) in the BMJ (the full text of which I can't access)

considers the possible benefits of treatment versus the risks of over-medicalisation of idiopathic precocious puberty in girls

And gives this example as typical of young girls considered for a diagnosis of PP:

A 7 year old girl presents with history of body odour. She is tall for her age and her mother reports noticeable breast development and pubic hair growth over the last six months. The girl’s height is between the 75th and 91st centiles. Her mother recalls that her own periods began at age 11.

https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.l6597.full

[–]worried19[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So I can't tell if Transgender Trend got that detail wrong, or if Olsen-Kennedy is now looking for a new set of young girls to pathologize, victimize and screw up with her spurious diagnoses and her entirely experimental "treatments" and "cures" for them.

If I'm understanding the article right, Olson-Kennedy used this girl's precocious puberty as an excuse to start her on testosterone at the age of 8 instead of the usual age of 12 or 13. Her research and work is concerned solely with medically transitioning young children and teenagers. She appears to have no interest in other children at all, unless she can talk them into being trans, like she did with this 8 year old:

https://4thwavenow.com/2017/07/23/i-just-gave-him-the-language-top-gender-doc-uses-pop-tart-analogy-to-persuade-8-year-old-girl-shes-really-a-boy

[–]3MistersAndAMissy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That was horrible!! This need to get out. Please make this it’s own post.

2 things stand out, amongst the many obvious things of course

1- the poP tart wrapper more adequately describes clothes a person choses to wear, not the entire body one is born with. We can’t discard or change the body like we can the wrapper. TERRIBLE ANALOGY

2- the father of the anti-vacx movement, Dr Andrew Wakefield, lost his license and credibility for having a 50,000 study grant. This lady has a 5.7million dollar study grant and nobody is thinking she is biased?

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A little late, but I just made a separate post about Pop Tart Kid.

[–]3MistersAndAMissy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you!! I’ll go look for it.

I didn’t realize how many spelling errors I had in my message lol