all 11 comments

[–]SharpTomorrow 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It's not in charge everywhere. Although in most western countries, sex change operations are allowed, not every country made "gender theory" the rule of law. It's mostly prominent in anglo-saxon countries because somehow saying the word "sex" has become a taboo because of puritans morals.

[–]yousaythosethings 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s been all over the anglophone world because English is not a gendered language so it’s easier to make-believe here and use semantics to justify policy and social changes. “Gender” does not exist as a concept in other languages in the same way so “gender identity” doesn’t make sense as a concept in many languages. Also the population of trans is different in the East vs. the West. Autogynephilea run the West but Homosexual transsexuals run places like Thailand and other places where there is no semblance of equality between the sexes.

[–]worried19 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know it's tough. I find myself continually distressed by the fact that the only people who should be standing up for GNC women and girls are instead intent on erasing us. Social media is insane. I'd try to avoid it if at all possible. YouTube is not completely a lost cause, though. I follow a lot of female detransitioners. I recommend GNC Centric and the Pique Resilience Project in particular.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I feel the same way about being a man if I could choose. But be glad you're realistic enough to know that transitioning won't do that for you.

In some ways it's blaming women for misogyny. Calling women cis just implies we picked it and have no problems with it.

[–]buttbuttinator 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In a few decades I like to think that we'll look back at this fact as an interesting footnote, but that there will have been no long-term impact from it. Sort of like how the Skoptsy cult in the Russian Empire persisted for over a century and became shockingly influential in the early 20th century but today most people don't even know about them.

I hope that we'll look back on this as that time that fetishists inexplicably managed to accrue a shocking amount of power before, almost overnight, people started pushing back. It happens sometimes, in the 80s the Green Parties had a pro-pedophilia contingent. In San Francisco the nudists managed until very recently to successfully fight off even the most tepid of restrictions.

The latter example really showed the MO of these types of organizations, I don't think that anyone really thought it was an unreasonable law. I'm 100% in favor of nudity being legalized and view the nudists as a San Francisco institution, but requiring them to carry a towel so they don't put their bare assholes on chairs is fair. In fact, even the nudists themselves weren't arguing that it was actually OK for nudists to put their bare anuses on benches, but they said that legislating it was unnecessary because no nudist would be inconsiderate enough to do that and they carry towels anyway. And most normal people just didn't care enough to get involved because, well, arguing about what naked old gay men (because they do all seem to be old men in the Castro) do seems a little silly and even oppressive. And while we may support this regulation it will open the door to future regulation that we won't agree with (as we saw when our beloved Scott Weiner effectively banned the nudists a year later).

The same thing seems to be going on with the trans debate, most people think that TRAs are nutty, but most people also just think of them as harmless nuts and while we don't like them entering women's spaces, we also worry that the allies against trans insanity today will be adversaries on actual trans rights tomorrow.

[–]BEB 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You sound like a sweetheart!

I'm not as nice as you: I'm not worried that "the allies against trans insanity today will be adversaries of trans rights tomorrow."

We women had to fight for every single thing we have. We had to fight for public bathrooms simply in order to leave the house.

We had to fight for education, for sports, for the vote... you know the drill. And some of these battles were in my lifetime!

Trans, Inc., is extremely well-funded -hundreds of millions of dollars a year are being poured into destroying women's rights to benefit TIMs - they can use that money, and that tremendous power, to fight for trans rights and trans spaces, and leave ours alone.

[–]Marsupial 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're not in charge, though. This is a predominantly English-speaking western world problem. This is the US, Canada and the UK. Maybe Australia?- I'm not sure what the discourse is like there on the trans question. The rest of the world isn't as far gone in the "woke" cult. Many countries recognize that trans people deserve rights, but they're still far from abandoning biological sex as a concept. And in other parts of the world trans ideology is entirely out of the question.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I relate to a lot of what you describe here. It's sad what the world has come to. What pisses me off about TiFs specifically is they'll tell a story almost identical to yours and insist that this makes them men. They'll insist that they aren't misogynistic internally and sometimes externally as well. They eat up gender roles and maintain that 'masculine women are great' but won't examine why being one isn't good enough for them. It wasn't until I asked myself that exact question, among many others, that peaked me. So glad you didn't transition and make any permanent changes.