Men vs Women when it comes to biological children

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[–]squintypreyeyes 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well this isn't going to win me any friends but: I am antinatalist so I don't think anyone should breed.

The desire from men to breed is especially gross because it means they are okay with using their partner, who they ostensibly love, as a vessel to propagate their own genes. As a consequence the mother will almost certainly have pain and discomfort for roughly a year of her life (pregnancy and childbirth recovery) and risk some kind of long term health issue, whether that is lack of pelvic floor control or something more severe- even death. I don't know how these men live with themselves even when the woman is a willing participant, let alone if she is reluctant.

That said, if a man doesn't want to breed, it is extremely wrong to try to push it on him. He will have to support his pregnant partner and live with the knowledge that it is his fault that a new life has entered the world. I would not fault a man for leaving a relationship because he wanted to adopt but his partner wanted to breed. In fact, I would admire it, precisely because it would be so easy to capitulate in that scenario.

[–]jelliknight 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The desire from men to breed is especially gross because it means they are okay with using their partner, who they ostensibly love, as a vessel to propagate their own genes.

This doesn't make sense. I'm equally using him to propagate my genes, if not more. In every species it is the female that selects the male. That's why male peacocks lock like that, for example. The woman is the gatekeeper of reproduction and chooses which male, or none, to use for making her offspring. Your perceptions seem to be distorted by the patriarchal world we live in which seeks to invert these natural laws, and yet even so if I decide not to have kids, they're not getting had. If I decide to have them by another man (who consents) that's whats happening. Men have never been happy about it but women retain divine control over reproduction and therefore the future of the species.