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[–]meranii 36 insightful - 4 fun36 insightful - 3 fun37 insightful - 4 fun -  (17 children)

I see exchanges like that a lot online and it's so strange to me. These people really think being critical of gender and aware of the reality of sex-based oppression is on the level of being a racist, so when they publicly shittalk "terfs", everyone can see how tolerant and inclusive they are. Except a terf has never hurt anyone, we do not condone violence and are not a danger to human rights. But sure, saying "I was born a woman and you were not" is the most horrible and hateful thing anyone has ever done to another person.

[–]Immortallogic 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

In an interview from a detrans woman I saw, she described it perfectly, and that is that their entire identity is based on ideology and rests on a house of cards. Nowadays having to transition isn't even a prerequisite for identifying as trans. So when you point out a reality and the flaws in their logic (including TWAW but women are somehow 'uterus havers, birth givers' etc) or "I was born a woman and you were not" you are effectively destroying their entire "identity", because it's so paper thin and riddled with illogic to begin with.

It's just a bunch of low self esteem people who spend too much time on the internet, dissociated from reality, have mental issues and watching too much porn and who've decided they have nothing authentic to offer the world, so hey! Let's be trans. Let's be 'enby'. Also misogyny, sexism etc.

And the lobbyists are pushing the agenda because there is a shit ton of money to be made from these types of procedures.

To the people at the top it's literally only about the money. The damage to society, the erasure of women, and everything else, it's just a casualty, which, in a few tens of years they will say 'sorry, we were wrong. We should have known better'. By then, we're on to the next tragedy.

[–]OrangeFirefly 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the politicians who go along with it, that's what I can't understand.

I'm in the UK and during the Labour leadership campaign I watched Lisa Nandy wittering on about 'denying transpeople's right to exist'. I'm sorry, what? How on earth is believing that biological sex is real 'denying transpeople's right to exist'? As you say, it's all ideology built on a house of cards.

Refusing to participate in another person's delusions is the sensible thing to do. I am so tired of politicians whose minds are so open that their brains have fallen out.

[–]BEB 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This attack on women might have a more sinister motive, in which case it's not going to disappear.

Some feminists who've researched this issue think that the end goal is disassociating children from their bodies, so that when trans-humanism arrives they will more easily accept it.

This writer has done a lot of interesting work on the transgender lobby - trans-humanism link. Her twitter is also excellent for finding other GC feminists.

The11thHourBlog.com @bjportraits (on Twitter)

You don't have to be on twitter to read tweets: Just type "bjportraits" and "twitter" into your search engine and she should come up.

[–]Immortallogic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I saw this somewhere as well, it's quite interesting tbh. Damaging as fuck, but interesting. Thanks for the resources, I'll def check them out and earn the parents of young kids that I know.

I also saw this image where in schools they're showing kids the different sexualities or whatever with lgbt nice and bright and rainbow colored, trans with the pink, blue and white and NB with some other bright colors. And for the normal heterosexual it's just grey and white. So of course the kids want to be associating with the bright and colorful ones. It's so fucked.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Joe Biden's foundation has partnered with an organization called Gender Spectrum that goes into US schools with the kind of bullshit you're talking about, trying to convince very young kids that sex is a spectrum and that they might be transgender or whatever - as usual gender ideology logic falls apart on even the briefest inspection.

Last year, Gender Spectrum boasted on Twitter about targeting Hispanic children. I'm guessing knowing full well that a significant portion of these kids' parents would not speak English well if at all, or would be non-native English speakers. SHAMELESS.

[–]Immortallogic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Fuck this is all terrifying. There is little middle ground left in politics -_- time to go full force green party lol, but who knows their stance in this gender shit

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

The Green Party somewhere in Europe, or it could have been the UK, decided to change the word for "women" to "non-men" so the Green Party (while I am very much an environmentalist) is not an option for me.

[–]Immortallogic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're serious? Jesus Christ. Who comes up with this shit?? And who endorses it thinking it's ok?

Looks like we got to start our own political party... CSP - the "Common Sense Party"

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Totally serious. It was some European or UK Green Party and they changed the definition of "woman" to "non-man"

IIRC The German Greens were full of TIMs, especially on their "Women's" committees.

[–]Immortallogic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Damn, Germany of all places too eh. The UK is falling all over themselves trying to accommodate TiMs, from what I've seen/read. I guess all the western lib democracies are breeding grounds for this shit.

The religious countries aren't, but they're against anything related to women's rights or seeing women as anything other than properties or breeders anyway anyway usually...

Not sure about the Nordic countries though, where they fall. If anything, they would be the ones to use some sense.

[–]meranii 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

100%, thank you for the dose of reality. <3

I agree that in a few years, we'll all have moved on from TWAW trend and the current gender cult, but until then they will demonize women who try to protect themselves, and then they will just attack women in a new different way. It's always the same throughout the centuries.

[–]Immortallogic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry for the late reply. You're welcome! The world is shit sometimes but you have to try and keep your sanity and don't get too sucked into this online world.

Keep speaking out in real life but keep it factual so you will be credible. Soon this house of cards will fall because of its illogic and narcissism.

Best thing you can do is stay strong, as a woman, cultivate a strong mentality and be super critical of everything mainstream media tells you is good for you, from beauty standards to what is "empowering" and all the rest. If you're not already, come join us over at the pinkpillfeminism sub here on Saidit. Much love sis <3

[–]yousaythosethings 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Which interview was that?

[–]Immortallogic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry for the late reply. It's this one https://youtu.be/n2HYucdoUuk

[–]yousaythosethings 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks! I really like Helena. She is very insightful and introspective.

[–]QueenBread 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's so strange to me

Not so strange. It's called "dehumanization". Humanity has done it since like.... always. "Oh, she's a witch, so I can torture her and burn her alive without feeling guilty" or "Oh, he's Jew, so I can torture him and burn him alive without feeling guilty".