Does anyone else think feminine guys/femboys are quite a powerful force against TRAs?

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[–]jkfinn 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What to eff is “the freedom to perform femininity?” Is this like the freedom to perform in black face, or red face? Is it the freedom to mock women?

What is “toxic masculinity?” Does this imply a sort of exemption card for men who don’t look like Hell’s Angels, but who participate just as fully in male dominance--sometimes as spies and eunuchs within feminism?

What are “femmes?” and “femboys?” Is there any connection at all between them and women? Are they more pro-women and anti-sexist than typical males? Are they “a powerful voice against TRAS?” Or on the contrary, do they represent nothing more than puffery, or a lighter forum of female ridicule?

[–]Apricot_Ibex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I also dislike the phrase “perform femininity”. I only use it negatively, as in expectations set on women and only women to act submissive, attractive to men, pornified, etc.

I see non-“masculine” men as neutral. Men are men and wouldn’t trust any one type. Gender roles are stupid and hurt women the most, though.

No men seem to be “powerful voices” against TRAs, but are any men powerful voices for ANY issue on women’s rights? Not really...only up to the point it cuts into their privilege. They just want brownie points, whether they’re woke bros or good ole boys.

Toxic masculinity includes being a domineering, violent, obnoxious dick, even if the dude is in a dress. It holds the expectation that men and women not only look but also act a certain way. Plenty of TRAs exhibit toxic masculinity....in fact, I’ve yet to see one online who doesn’t, but then again, I’ve yet to see one who isn’t seriously mentally ill as well. And they may deny it, but their male socialization always shines through.

[–]bigmeaniebutt[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I dislike that phrase too but I sadly think that's why a lot of men want to become women. To "perform" these sexist stereotypes and continue to conflate womanhood with it.

[–]Apricot_Ibex 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! Womanface, like was said above. Definitely the case for autogynophiles, I think, which is what I think most of the aggressive, violent TRAs are....autogynophilic and narcissistic. They aren’t even gender noncomforming in any meaningful sense that I can see. They just have a fetish and want to act it out, and now they’re being enabled.