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[–]meranii 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Can you specify how you are "on opposite ends from most feminists"?

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    [–]jelliknight 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Abortion rights and adoption are completely unrelated issues. Please allow me to educate you on this topic.

    If abortion is illegal, women lose all rights over their bodies for their entire fertile lives. When a woman has missed her first period, she is defined as being already 4 weeks pregnant. Many times women conceive and then miscarry during the monthly cycle and have their next period as normal. This is called a chemical pregnancy as it would show up on a pregnancy test, but since you don't miss a period most people would say you weren't really pregnant (even though there was definitely a conception).

    Almost anything can cause a miscarriage. Pomegranates, parsley, certain seeds - all of these have potential abortive actions. Falling, jumping, crunches, really any vigorous exercise can also cause an abortion in certain circumstances. The only difference between a miscarriage and an abortion is whether or not the woman is believed to have intended that outcome.

    No birth control is 100% effective, and women don't always get to choose whether or not to have sex.

    Add all these up and the result is that if you criminalize abortion you criminalize women. All women between the ages of 13 and 60 are murder suspects all the time.

    My period is a day late and I ate a pomegranate. Am I now a murderer? Can I prove that I'm not?

    I was 12 weeks pregnant and i went for a bike ride. Later I had a miscarriage. Murderer?

    I was 4 month pregnant and I wasn't happy about it. I had a miscarriage. Can I prove it was natural?

    This already happens in other countries. Women are in jail for having miscarriages they swear were unintentional.

    More to the point, whether or not you think a conception or a fetus is a human, it's inarguable that THE WOMAN is a human. Pregnant women don't stop being human beings. They still have rights to go where they like, eat what they like, exercise any way that that like, and touch their own bodies in any way they like. There is NO WAY to prevent abortion without taking these rights away from women. Trust me, there are dozens of safe and reliable ways for women to procure abortion without medical help. What should the punishment be for a woman who firmly massages her own belly? To outlaw abortion or even restrict it is to make women prisoners in their own bodies.

    You can dislike abortion, but opposing its legality is plain old woman hating and it has real consequences. Not every woman knows how to safely procure an abortion so women die when abortion is limited.

    Men have never been comfortable with the inescapable fact that women by nature determine which babies will be born, when, and to whom. The struggle by men to gain control of this has been the cause of a lot of suffering in the world.

    The fact is that a fetus is NOT a person, it is a PART of another person; the woman. If you have any doubt about that there's a simple thought experiment; What medication could I take that would have an effect on you? What medication would cause a risk to you by me taking it? None. Because we are different people. If i have a 6 year old child and I take medication it can't possibly harm the child. The only body affected by me taking medication is mine. And I have the right to decide what happens to, in, or on my body.

    [–]meranii 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You can dislike abortion, but opposing its legality is plain old woman hating and it has real consequences.

    Hear hear!

    Beautiful post that really laid bare the illogical nature of opposing abortion rights, and I enjoyed reading it.