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[–]Complicated-Spirit 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Omg, my mom did the same thing with pantyhose. I HATE them. I hate the way they feel. I hate the ridiculous way they look. They are the epitome of discomfort to me. I don’t even own any anymore - I refuse. Yet my mother seemed to think that if I wasn’t going to wear pantyhose under a skirt - and I had to wear a skirt/dress to certain events, because I had to “dress up and look nice”, which mean being physically uncomfortable - than I might as well go naked if I’m going to display the indecency of my bare knees and calves to the whole world. I probably would’ve gone NB too, if I could’ve used it as an excuse to get out of those damned pantyhose.

(Yet, it seems like TIMs are the only ones keeping the pantyhose industry in business anymore - whenever you read their coming-of-gender stories, pantyhose is one of the first things they often grab. Ugh. I’d say it’s like taking an oppressively uncomfortable male garment that has persisted in being worn only because it’s considered ghastly and uncivilized to appear in public with whatever it covers, uncovered; then putting it on your female body, and declaring yourself liberated because now you are made to dress in awkward, tiring, uneasy clothing just like a man has to wear to conform to expectations of decency and shame - but males don’t have garments like that.)

[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It wasn't much fun having to wear stockings for church, synagogue, work or school before pantyhose was invented, either, LOL.

Having to wear stockings held up by garter belts or girdles with garters (aka braces in British parlance) was a big drag. Especially since back in the days before panty hose, teen girls in countries like the USA were required to wear skirts/dresses and hose to HS; women in college and uni had to wear them to classes; and working women had to wear skirts and hose in a wide variety of jobs too - from nursing, waitressing and running a cash register to working in the secretarial pool or being a file clerk. This was expensive too, since the hose back then got holes and "runs" so easily. (And in cold winter weather, the tops of the thighs not covered by the stocking would get very cold to the point of often getting chapped, especially in high winds.)

Equally unpleasant to wear back then were the big, thick, super-chafing sanitary pads that were kept in place by the awful contraptions known as sanitary belts before thinner sanpro pads with adhesive backing and "wings" along with a variety of easy-to-use tampon products were introduced. Having to go to school or work wearing both a garter belt holding up your stockings and a sanitary belt holding in place a giant "sanitary napkin" in your crotch at the same time really sucked! LOL

[–]our_team_is_winning 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

the awful contraptions known as sanitary belts

My mother's aunts grew up in the 1920s and they told her they had to use rags and wash them and reuse them, like the way some do with ecofriendly (?) diapers. What's disturbing to me is that I'm sure some TiM would get off on washing out period blood.

[–]Complicated-Spirit 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You think it hasn’t happened? It’s the same reason they claim we’re “privileged” for having periods.

Speaking of their love for pantyhose, they also seem to love slips and camisoles and all matter of uncomfortable, old-fashioned, rayon, lace-festooned underclothes that women have discarded. So I’d imagine they’d be all over the sanitary jockstraps (as my mother disparagingly referred to them).

[–]MarkTwainiac 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right: males' tendency to fetishize female bodily functions and to get off imagining themselves as having female bodies pre-dates both the current and prior century.

[–]Shesstealthy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not for 30 years they wouldn't.

[–]denverkris 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For a minute I didn't get this, then it hit me and I knew why I missed it at first. I hit menopause a few years back and I miss that thing so little that its almost like I've totally blocked it out of my mind, haha. SO do not miss it.