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[–]MezozoicGay 21 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

will not accept different groups of women being pitted against each other

So "trans issues erasing women spaces" is just "women fighting each other"?

we can work together towards language that accommodates everyone.

Why not leave it as it is and not change it to mean nothing?

[–]anonymale 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Rosie Duffield made a historic speech drawing on her own experience of coercive control and domestic violence, which got international press coverage. Returning to the subject this year she branded domestic abusers as misogynist cowards. Now packs of them have made her life and job impossible. We know what she’s up against. Has she surrendered, or reached the limits of what she and her family can endure personally? Does she have credible intelligence that her safety is at risk?

I believe that the creepoids targeting her for abuse have selected her because they know she has been abused before. We know how they think, how they select victims. “She must have deserved it before, she deserves it now.”

We see this. The public sees it too.

[edit:linked to actual speech]

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is terrible. Wish she wasn’t bullied but here we are. Men bullying women.

[–]anonymale 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've been fucking steaming about this all day, not least because her party's leadership have thrown her under the woke bus. A pox on that shower of spineless bastards. Female Conservative MPs who speak about this get abuse, but they know their party stands by them. By contrast Labour (and Lib Dem and Green and SNP, even the Women's Equality Party, for fuck's sake) are riddled with the left/liberal analogue of climate change denial. The electorate remembers horseshit like this. If Labour want to be electable, they need to remove gender ideologues as well as the lefty antisemites.

[–]BEB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hi, My job for almost a decade involved having to pay attention to global events, including events in the Middle East every day, so, just to keep the peace on this sub, can we not talk about "antisemitism" because, in the UK, the definition of "antisemitism" seems to have changed to include criticism of Israel? Especially since that discussion has nothing to do with GC feminism and could lead to division? Thank you!

[–]anonymale 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If it’s not for discussion, we didn’t need to know your tendentious and incorrect opinion. From the UK Govt’s website:

However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.

I’ll just leave this here and not discuss it further.

[–]BEB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know a lot about this topic because part of my job was tracking elections, but I thank you for agreeing to end this discussion as a sub on Gender Critical feminism is not the space to argue about what is "antisemitic" and what is valid criticism of another country's actions, especially as to how it affects your own country and the world. This sub is about feminism. Thanks.

[–]Delia 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Been bullied I will always admire her for saying, it is a relief to not represent such shitty people anymore..you go girl.

[–]our_team_is_winning 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

<I will not accept different groups of women being pitted against each other>

So she has just called TiM a particular "group of women" -- "How many fingers am I holding up Winston?" Four. "And if the Party says it's Five?" It's STILL FOUR.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She didn’t completely surrender. Didn’t call women people with cervixes. She said most women, some trans men and some non binary.