Difference between LGB and TQ: gay people just want to be able to exist in private, TQ wants to be accommodated and centred at all times and for everyone to tiptoe around them.

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[–]Feather 18 insightful - 9 fun18 insightful - 8 fun19 insightful - 9 fun -  (9 children)

to not use any gendered language

So how does this work with two trans people, one who insists that no gendered language be used and the other who insists on being called their preferred gender pronouns? Which one gets to win and make the other person do what they want?

[–]lefterfield 15 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

I watched a "woke fight" the other day about whether "it" should be considered an offensive pronoun or not, since some people use it for themselves. How people don't wake up to the ridiculousness of the whole thing is beyond me, but at least I found it entertaining to watch.

[–]firebird 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is so difficult for me to wrap my head around. I don't think I've ever used "it" for an animal either. Just seems wrong.

[–]YoutiaoLover 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I have met people referring their babies as "it" 🙄

Like, I've heard people referring ships as "she", why would they use "it" on their own baby?

[–]MezozoicGay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In our language "it" is reserved to inherently non-observable or strange objects, or to monsters. Even non-living items are gendered, like "book" is "she", for example.

[–]meranii 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ugh, I've encountered something like that online a few times over the years. Like someone would constantly refer to themselves as "it" and in the third person, saying stuff like "it doesn't deserve personhood", essentially pulling people into their humiliation kink by making them question why the person talked like that.

[–]PeakingPeachEater 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly! Lol

Or how does it work in other countries where we have gendered language? Are they going to call us "discrimatory" for not using "gender-neutral" pronouns that don't exist on our language?

I don't understand why some Americans want to change OTHER countries' languages with words like "LatinX", which doesn't make any sense grammatically in Portuguese or Spanish. It sounds ridiculous.

I have American friends who use that term too...even with Latin heritage...disappointing.

[–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In our language almost every word is gendered when speaking to someone, so just by suffixes you know what sex person have. So to put here special pronouns, they will need to change ending to every second world in whole language. Which will be very stupid and unrealistic. And our language is "pro-drop", so we are dropping all words that are not needed if it is understandable from context. For example just saying "Had read the book" will say who had read the book by suffixes. So this phrase with different suffix of word "read" will mean either he had read the book (читав, lone "л" is changing to "в" for better sounding in our language), or she (читала), or it (читало), or they (читали). And that with everything. All this pronouns thing makes no sense there at all, just because there are no pronounses at all.

[–]grixit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Two little Hitlers will fight it out until

One little Hitler does the other one's will

---Elvis Costello