What do you do when there are trans women you actually like?

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[–]jkfinn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I also disagree with every comment, but not because I'm unlucky enough to know so many T's. But rather because this sub has only been around for like a month and already there have been several "NOT-ALL-TRANS" threads followed by loads of sympathetic posts. This mantra is strange on a GC Critical sub, esp since it’s far more dominant than “NOT-ALL-MEN” which I guess by now has been all but buried. And yet it’s not men who are directly displacing both women and feminism, but MtF trans.

I really believe this exception stuff should be reserved for private conversation at best, because this is supposed to be a political movement, not a psycho-therapist office... it’s like group therapy where each gets to admit that they love certain of their oppressors... it was exactly this type of privatizing that helped to kill the second wave and drove many women into becoming psycho-therapists. Forget the patterns of oppression because, you see, after all, it’s really all my personal experience.

[–]tuesday 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You said it way better than I ever could, thank you! <3

"I also disagree with every comment, but not because I'm unlucky enough to know so many T's. But rather because this sub has only been around for like a month and already there have been several "NOT-ALL-TRANS" threads followed by loads of sympathetic posts. This mantra is strange on a GC Critical sub, esp since it’s far more dominant than “NOT-ALL-MEN” which I guess by now has been all but buried. And yet it’s not men who are directly displacing both women and feminism, but MtF trans.

I really believe this exception stuff should be reserved for private conversation at best, because this is supposed to be a political movement, not a psycho-therapist office... it’s like group therapy where each gets to admit that they love certain of their oppressors... it was exactly this type of privatizing that helped to kill the second wave and drove many women into becoming psycho-therapists. Forget the patterns of oppression because, you see, after all, it’s really all my personal experience."

It's not so much that they should reserve their hero worship for a private room, but more like, they need better self awareness. Notice that someone with healthy self esteem doesn't need to constantly discuss all of Uncle John's bare minimum decency in order to point out that Uncle John has some seriously subpar criminal behavior that should, in a just world, get him thrown out of the house forever. pedophile/wife beater/subjugating women's rights/whatever. It's all on the same scale of awful and can we please stop the hero worship of behavior that is just bare minimum human decency. cos it's gaslighting in the extreme.

You know how some libfems will ooh and ah over a guy who takes out the trash once a week while she does everything else? Same thing.

[–]jkfinn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup. I have a very hard time or avoid altogether even mentioning Uncle John's name, let alone mentioning one seemingly good trait.

[–]ImPiqued1111111[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How precisely am I supposed to have an private conversation about any of this, when I don't really know anyone GC in my real life, and who might be experiencing something similar?

You don't like this topic, you don't have to read it. I don't recall telling you what to post.

[–]yishengqingwa666 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

THANK YOU. Save this dick pandering bullshit for... well, anywhere else.

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I just made a post about why this is, and the sympathy. You can feel sorry for someone, sure, but that goes back to these conversations my lawyer friend and I would have when we talked about moral dilemma of intent versus outcome. Intent versus behavior. Sure, we all have some slips sometimes, but when do you start using a person's constant behavior to then label them as that thing they represent themselves as?

If you punch twenty cats, you are a cat puncher.

I think men have different shit flying their way because of this. The term cishet male has become a slur as well, and put on men as less than now. There are so many women on dating apps right now stating they will date anyone but a cishet male. It'sbecoming a thing for sure.

One of my degrees is psychology.