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[–]greenish 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nothing. There are many men I like personally. It still doesn't stop me believing that men as a class have and continue to hurt, marginalize and try to control women as a class. There are also women I think are supremely shitty individuals - it still doesn't stop it from being true.

I treat the men I like as the decent, lovely people they are, knowing that they did not choose the system into which they were born and try to treat everyone with kindness, fairness, and equality, but because they haven't experienced it from the female point of view they have a lot of blind spots and sometimes fall into exploiting women's labour because the way things are set up encourages it and makes it easy and invisible for them to do so, and nobody's perfect. However, the reason I like these men is that when pointed out, they see that it's unfair and try to be more aware and change their behaviour without further prompting, because they actually personally care about other people, and not being an asshole.

Apply this to your TIM friends.

[–]ImPiqued1111111[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, this is a really good point. There are men in my life I like also, and I can separate that from how I think of men as a class. Even though that can be something of a struggle too, at times.

This shouldn't really be any different. Thanks for framing it like this.