So apparently, using sites like WomenAreHuman and This Never Happens to show how the Trans ideology is harming Women is "Cherry-picking"

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[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah I already got on him equating women to a feeling and look when he said that "If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck" as a way to explain why Transwomen are women and I just flat out asked if he realized how sexist he was sounding equating womanhood to femininity while addressing what he thinks about super masculine presenting women like Ivan Coyote and if they're not women by his logic.

But you're so right, referring to these women in the articles as pieces of fruit not worth listening to really does come off very misogynistic. These are HUMAN BEINGS here and they deserve to be taken seriously, especially when these kinds of people say that these assaults "Never happen". And yeah I was actually gonna bring that up about how many women getting assaulted or harassed is it gonna take for people to finally understand where these women are coming from. He's turning them into essentially sacrificial lambs and that is just messed up.

[–]Realwoman 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Transwomen don't look like women, they don't sound like women, they don't talk like women (do women say stuff like "suck my girl dick"?) and they don't act like women. Show your friend this video and ask him if that guy looks anything like a woman

https://youtu.be/NDrhMrqBe48

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That video was crazy lol But yeah that's exactly the kind of bullshit I'm talking about that but I feel like he would just say that the dude in that video is not really trans because "he's not trying to look like a woman" and then would most likely use someone like Blaire White to get his point across (even though Blaire White doesn't really look like what he does in his videos and is using makeup, lights, and angles to warp his appearance...). I just think he's gonna write that video off because he thinks that being a woman in our culture is about how you look and will then throw me examples of hyper feminine looking men.

[–]Realwoman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well, that guy identifies as a lesbian. So how are you going to distinguish between "real" transwomen and guys like that? How are you going to stop guys like him from claiming they're women? Ask him for a list or something. Then he'll have to give you examples such as "long hair", "makeup", "clothes" and to each example you can counter - but many biological women have short hair, don't wear makeup and don't dress in a particularly feminine way.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah I'm sure he will resort to the feminine appearance thing. He did mention how Blaire White "puts effort in to look like a woman" so yeah, he's one of "those" people. I'll still send him that video just to see what he says but I won't be surprised if he resorts to "Not trying to look feminine = No trying to be a woman" and I'll go from there.

I actually did try to do what you suggested by saying "If being feminine is what makes someone a woman then what about masculine women like Ivan Coyote though I don't think he addressed it. He just said that IF a masculine woman feels like a woman, then she is a woman. "FEELS" I asked him "How do you feel like a woman?" but he didn't answer and brought up the culture angle saying that in our culture, we operate on looks and then used the duck analogy.

[–]Realwoman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So he's contradicting himself, first it's about how you feel, then it's about how you look. He just changes the argument as it suits him.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I realize that he did that now that I reflected and it feels like it doesn't matter what I say at this point.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right, I'm still waiting on his response and I'll hone in on the whole appearance thing again.