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[–]CJLez 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

For the gay erasure where he says you are paranoid - maybe link him to the stories that the Tavistock whistleblowers said about the homophobic parents wanting their kids 'fixed' and the jokes the employees would make about how there soon won't be any gays/lesbians left in the UK. They have a better insight into what is happening than me or you or he does.

I'd link to the primary news sources linked on the WAH / TNH stories (usually local news websites) rather than those websites directly in future as they are harder to discount as a biased source.

Also, ask him if he believes in self-ID and then, if he says yes, tell him that, by his definition, every one of those people was 'really trans anyway' because they IDed as trans, whether or not they actually suffered from any form of dysphoria. This is a classic No True Scotsman fallacy.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't know if linking to the Tavistock Whistleblowers will help because he also said that I spend too much time on the internet and that I should "live in the real world". I'll still give it a try but he is one of "those" people.

And fair enough, I guess it's better to just link to the individual stories rather than the websites themselves because they're branded as "TERF" sites though I still feel like they will just say "Selection bias" or "Cherry-picking" still.

[–]CleverNickName 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If a significant number of real healthcare professionals leaving a real clinic in the real world over real concerns isn't "living in the real world", then nothing ever will be.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very true. And it's because you don't really hear about this stuff in the mainstream media so these people think that it's just a myth or "overblown".