Why are there so many trans women in tech?

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    [–]ladyreason 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy though.

    When you're being treated horribly by your peers you really have few options other than your computer.

    I would have loved to be better socialized growing up, but every time I tried to socialize with my female peers they would ridicule me. Sometimes for my interests, sometimes for my looks, always for coolness points with onlookers. The computer was something I understood. It took input and gave predictable output. It worked in a logical fashion. It did cool stuff. It didn't judge me, or call me names, or put terrible things in my locker, or start horrible rumors about me, or throw my gym clothes away, or tell other people to ostracize me, or pretend to be nice for a short time to set me up for a cruel prank.

    It took me years to learn to look people in the eye. Years to stop assuming people, especially women, would automatically hate me the second they met me. It has been literally decades and being surrounded by a large group of women still sets off my fight or flight.

    I guess remember that in the middle of all of this chaos is often a scared, scarred, deeply traumatized human whose peers tortured them instead of teaching them how to properly interact socially.

    That doesn't mean we should buy into their harmful delusions or let them run roughshod over women's rights, but we should give a little grace there. In a lot of ways, most of them are victims too.

    [–]whateverneverpine 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    No, it's not "often." "Often" would be men who are used to calling the shots, have always felt contemptuous of the women in their lives, mean to their sisters, know-it-alls, emotionally stunted human beings. Fuck all of them. Trans is just a way of getting back at women.

    [–]ladyreason 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Just as women aren't a monolith, men aren't either. shrugs

    And I believe people can learn.

    Yes, there are awful autogynephilic males that just need to go away. But I honestly think there are some males who are confused and hurt and have neurological issues and they need a little kindness and a fair bit of logical discussion of what being a woman really is and why they can't just decide to co-opt that.

    [–]cybitch 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That's true, but at the end of the day, the world is ruled by men. The approval of men means more to men than whatever empathy they have the potential of developing for the women in their lives. And noone craves that approval more than those who used to be outcasts. In my experience, socially inadequate males are a thousand times worse than the so-called "jocks". They're desperate to find anyone to look down for their own ego, so they're more likely to bully women. They're also more likely to give in to the bullying of the trans than normal men are because at the end of the day they're cowards, which contributes to an even worse environment for women.

    [–]ladyreason 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Men? Sure.

    These specific men? Not so much, a lot of the time.

    I mean, I get what you're saying and you're right, like I said we shouldn't buy into their delusions. But I think we should leave an opening for a little kindness and understanding to the hurting and confused ones that could come to their senses and become allies if they understood what they were really doing to themselves, and to women.

    Especially the ones who are basically brainwashed and railroaded children, and the classic transexuals who didn't initially pull this nonsense.

    Much like we understand trans men despite their apparent surface desire to abandon us altogether.

    [–]whateverneverpine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's not a question of "some males," the issue is, are there REALLY "some" autogynephilic males who are confused etc and need "a little kindness" (from women, natch). Do these mythical unicorns really exist? Where are they?