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[–]fuckingsealions 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

"cisness is not a spiritual default" I'm sorry this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. It's like they took Bigfoot and put him in between Pegasus bread to make a wtfbullshit sandwich. Words don't mean anything anymore. I cannot

[–]sisterinsomnia 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

This is the new religion. Sing it, sister. Or sibling or whatever. Sigh.

How did we get to this from second wave feminism? When did we think that it would be a great idea to take the class 'women' and turn them into a sub-category of the new gender identity -based category 'women'? And how did it happen that the old class 'women' is now the privileged class and that the other class of 'women' is the less privileged one when it consists of people who enjoyed male privilege until transitioning?

In any case, to be 'cis' requires that one identifies with some abstract female essence in the head or even the soul, then looks into one's pants and notices, happy, that what is there matches this abstract female essence. Most people define their gender on the basis of their biological sex, not apart from it.

And when that is the case, well, then we are adding up apples and oranges when we use 'inclusiveness' as the justification to write 'pregnant people.' Because every time one nonbinary female-bodied person is included and validated, a bus-load of ordinary women are excluded and invalidated.

I hate that whole trans-built edifice, as if one's gender is some weird shitty religion, as if what personality someone has determines which box to tick on forms. And once you go that way you can't define what the group oppressed on the basis of sex even is. "Woman" has become an individual choice, and all the structural reasons why women have been oppressed are disappeared.

[–]MezozoicGay 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

it is something that is forced on us

Yeah, by nature and laws of physics. While gender is what forced on us by society and personally you, xester TRA (or what is analogue for nonbinary mister or miss).

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gender is imposed upon us since birth though? They aren’t totally wrong in the sense that many times we don’t challenge gender roles imposed upon us and we think this is how things are. Difference between them and GC is that we want to get rid of the concept of gender entirely while they want to be able to choose their gender roles. Also male and female are sex categories observed at birth.

[–]Literallyawoman 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow the backtracking is incredible. r/selfawarewolves much?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are they talking about sex or gender? Because gender is forced on us – but it sounds like they're conflating the two.

[–]Nona_Biba 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

love the backpedalling on the word "default." you just know someone must have hounded her about it based on the time differences in the tweet. first was at 6 am last was at 10 pm