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[–]oofreesouloo 35 insightful - 11 fun35 insightful - 10 fun36 insightful - 11 fun -  (1 child)

I've honestly lost the times they've said "we owe this community to trans women". And specifically trans lesbians HAHAHAHAHA. NO.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know I am preaching to the choir. I am a lesbian. I like tacos (double entendre). I don't want a thing in me, or around me (that phallus thing).

Things I owe: I owe my lower pay to males who keep females at lower SES, even though I am more educated, and have more experience than the majority of the males in the industries I have worked. I owe my fear to walking alone at night (which I almost never do anymore), to males. I owe my fear in talking to anyone on a dating app, without being catfished (which has happened, a male showed up once! female photos!), to males. I owe the money spent on therapy, to get over assault by males, to males. I owe so much to males and trans identified males, yes this is correct!

[–]Anoki 26 insightful - 7 fun26 insightful - 6 fun27 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Do they know , that those who they call trans were just drag king and queens ?

[–]moody_ape 20 insightful - 13 fun20 insightful - 12 fun21 insightful - 13 fun -  (1 child)

i wouldn't trust cis people either. i mean, they don't really exist. and as a good atheist, i don't trust imaginary beings.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not an atheist but this is still a great line, and made me laugh.

[–]greenish 20 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Oh wow, the lies have evolved again, now it's not just "trans women" (gay male drag queens) LGB people owe everything to, it's "trans lesbians" (straight men). How's that then?

Also, now completely gender conforming people are GNC, if they identify as the opposite sex.

[–]worried19 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Assuming they were transsexuals instead of drag queens, were any of the well-known natal male individuals from the Stonewall era attracted to women?

[–]Feather 14 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Great. And the sentiment goes both ways from me. Glad we've got that sorted.

[–]yousaythosethings 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if it hurts to be this delusional and cognitively dissonant.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Who is saying you can't be gender nonconforming? All we're saying is that you're either female or male regardless of how you present. (Edit: 1 in 60 people are intersex, but that doesn't negate that sex is a binary because there are only two gametes, one produced by males and one by females).

[–]greenish 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They're saying that if you're a TIM who dresses exactly like a regular guy, or a TIF who dresses exactly like a stereotypical woman, (in other words you don't even try to 'pass', are completely visually indistinguishable from everyone else of the same sex, and do not dress in styles more typically associated with the opposite sex) then in fact you're a brave and noble GNC person - a 'butch' """woman""" or a 'femme' """man""".

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I love that they tore Trisha Paytas to shreds for saying she's a trans man (and a chicken nugget), but celebrate gender conforming straight male trolls, calling them butch.

[–]Delia 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a women I detest your inclusive movement which excludes natal women. Whom I was born, and the life I lead, not your bizarre made up mock up of what a natal women's life is and can I add I do not want to speak to you let alone have sex with you. I like my fellows natal.

[–]yishengqingwa666 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is no end to male entitlement and male misogyny.

[–]Hard_headed_woman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All I can say is "The feeling's mutal, Bud."