Did y'all ever notice r/detrans was taken down for half a day, yet all the exclusively women's subs were permanently banned?

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[–]DetransIS 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I'll admit, I'm hesitant to post here given I know the nature of the stalkers.. all too personally now.

The situation on r/detrans is much more complicated then you're making it out to be. We were meant to be banned too and did indeed get the very same removal reason as Gender Critical and many other spaces. Screenshot of when we got banned

However, the moment we got banned.. there was massive blow up on Twitter and I want to say other social media as well. Massive retweeting, backing from psychologists and doctors. Word spread fast and despite Reddit claiming it was a mistake, none of us who were on the team buy that. Especially given how we were essentially threatened by the admin shortly after one of our mods confronted the admins who left us message. This also isn't factoring the fact a certain leader of these people tried to steal our sub and repurpose it right under our noses, likely similar to what happened to r/detransition.

[–]sisterinsomnia 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What is the power structure like at Reddit? Has it been captured by trans activists the way it looks now?

I guess what I am trying to understand why one particular and fairly small group wields such out-of-all-proportions power there. The whole place is a giant porn site with other things tagged to it so I get why it would not love feminists much, but the vicious hatred doesn't smell quite the same as from MRAs. It looks like it was TRAs who decided on the banned list.

[–]DetransIS 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you haven't given the thread posted by Helena a read yet, I highly recommend it. Two of the transgender power mods have close and tight affiliation with the upper power at Reddit. Reddit's probably also probably caught word of what trans means profit wise and like any other business, is trying to capitalize on it.

[–]Anon123[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, that's essentially what I'm saying though. The reaction to r/detrans taken down was different than r/gendercritical. Either reddit was afraid of looking anti-trans (and don't give a fuck about feminists saying #reddithateswomen" on twitter) or we didn't do enough to spread the word and create more backlash. What can we do to rectify in the way r/detrans did?

[–]DetransIS 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The only thing I can think of is what an existing poster said, that GC Twitter didn't have someone with enough power speaking up in regards to their ban and the voices that were screaming were drowned out by false claims made by trans extremists. The moment we got banned there was a massive storm on Twitter including massive mentions to Reddit's twitter accounts. I don't know exactly what happened regarding GC but what I heard is most women just said they were done and were going to relocate, to say here and the GC-made platform. Honestly given the rate things are going and the fact that banning me wasn't enough for trans extremists, r/detrans is on borrowed time as is especially with their increasingly growing influence and redefinition of what detransition means.

In our case I know we stressed they were making a mistake because we were a support group for those who were questioning their transition and an important lifeline for those who regretted transition.

Reddit's made it quite clear they don't really care about women given the massive amount of porn subs left unchecked and how many women subs got axed just for stating biological sex exists and women have different issues then biological males on estrogen.

[–]suzyquattrosshoes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think people who have detransitioned are more threatening to the trans movement. Their existence destabilizes the TRA narrative (of self identification specifically, and just the whole logic of their rhetoric). If people are being transitioned who shouldn’t be, then obviously there needs to be more and better controls and screening over transition - and they don’t want that. It puts their whole MO into question. That’s why research on detransition has been quashed, it’s too dangerous.

Our logic and rationale are discounted off the bat because of sexism. They’ve painted us as a hate group, that’s all they have to do to dismiss us since callout culture emerged (and since mutually respectful platforms for debate basically don’t exist anymore).

The TRA PR campaign against actual feminists (and women) is accepted by mainstream leftism as the correct view. We’re labelled as hateful, we’re seen as having privilege. Whereas detransitioners are evidently sympathetic, being I guess one could say the underdog, I mean it’d be obviously punching down for anyone to criticize them as a group.

[–]suzyquattrosshoes 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And yeah this way they can claim to support detransitioners while controlling the narrative.