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[–]Realwoman 45 insightful - 9 fun45 insightful - 8 fun46 insightful - 9 fun -  (17 children)

Yeah, the horror of not having hips, so much worse than all the negative side effects of puberty blockers!

[–]VioletRemi 64 insightful - 9 fun64 insightful - 8 fun65 insightful - 9 fun -  (16 children)

It is not like he ever can have "female hips", because they are based on skeletal structure and not on hormones. You know, on the fact that pelvis and angle of leg bones are just different. And because bone structure is different. You know, how archeologists can with 99% accuracy say that was male or female skeleton.

[–]Realwoman 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Isn't skeletal structure partly influenced by hormones? Girls develop hips in puberty.

[–]VioletRemi 36 insightful - 4 fun36 insightful - 3 fun37 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

Only "size" of them. Curve is always there because of skeletal structure, male skeleton have bones to go more narrower (my English is so bad today, heh) and muscles to go straight down, while female skeleton have an angle and pelvis is wider, but shorter, and muscles are curving around, and not going just at straight line: https://i.imgur.com/ljINpd7.png

[–]Realwoman 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not the same but I found this:

https://asbmr.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jbmr.2755

In summary, we show that bone sexual dimorphism is already present at 6 years of age, with boys having stronger bones than girls, the relation of which is influenced by body composition and likely attributable to differential adaptation to mechanical loading.

One more nail in the coffin of the stupid idea that men and women can compete in sports.

[–]VioletRemi 39 insightful - 10 fun39 insightful - 9 fun40 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

TRA said "educate yourself".

We did. And now we have even more proofs against them :P

[–]Realwoman 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Interesting

[–]VioletRemi 27 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah, and this is one of reasons why men are faster at running. Even having no testosteron and taking estrogen will not change basic body structure (I randomly was reminded about transwomen in sports). And it affects gait as well, so it is easy to say from behind where is man and where is woman, regardles of their looks.

[–]sisterinsomnia 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Many of you may have seen that video which shows how easy it is to tell male and female movements apart. I recall that you only see the little points of light the video attaches to all the joints of drawn male and female body shapes. When they move, all you see against everything being dark is those little twinkling lights moving, and it is enough to tell which body is supposed to be male and which female.

I don't know how to turn off that skill which appears to be required now.

[–]Realwoman 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'd love a link

[–]VioletRemi 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

[–]MezozoicGay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nowadays that video will be considered as transphobic!

[–]sisterinsomnia 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry, I didn't save it. It went round on FB I think, but I cant get it to come up in search.

[–]MarkTwainiac 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, skeletal structure is influenced by hormones. So the differences between male and female skeletal structures become more pronounced, prominent and conspicuously evident to the eye during and after the puberty that occurs in adolescence. But the DNA-determined and hormonally influenced differences between males and females skeletally and in many other ways are established in utero and in the months after birth.

Shortly after birth, humans go through a "mini puberty" whose occurrence and effects are profound but which have been largely ignored. In the first six months of life, male newborns for several months have testosterone levels as high as they will be at the peak of adolescent puberty. Female newborn humans have elevated estrogen levels during this time, but my understanding is that they do not reach the levels of female adolescent puberty.

The several months-long testosterone surge that male infants routinely experience in the first six months of life sets in motions many physical differences between the two sexes that only become glaringly obvious during and after the second puberty that occurs in adolescence.

Girls have the basic female pelvic structure from birth. During and after adolescent puberty, female hip shape becomes more pronounced and visible, in large part because of hormonally-induced weight gain and fat distribution.

[–]Realwoman 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you've talked about the mini puberty on here before, very interesting stuff.