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[–]FediNetizen 110 insightful - 17 fun110 insightful - 16 fun111 insightful - 17 fun -  (18 children)

That vaguely reminds me of a post that I think was on /r/GenderCritical a while ago. It was some screenshots of a thread from a trans group asked something along the lines of "Has anyone else had problems where once there's another [TiM] in a girl's group, the group tends to fall apart?"

The GC thread was about how none of them seemed to realize that even if normal woman say they're supportive, they can really only take so much of it before they decide to just fade.

One of the top comments in the screenshots suggested maybe starting a trans girl group instead, and the top reply was something like "I don't want to hang out and talk about dysphoria and stuff like that, I just want to be one of the girls".

And I remember thinking "oh, so you don't want to hang out with TiMs, yet can't seem to realize that same reasoning would also apply to you".

[–]Comatoast 68 insightful - 9 fun68 insightful - 8 fun69 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

No, because some of them want to hover around women and attempt mimicry while doing nasty shit like fetishizing our periods.

[–]Aquadog 51 insightful - 10 fun51 insightful - 9 fun52 insightful - 10 fun -  (15 children)

lol wtf does being "one of the girls" even mean?

[–]vitunrotta 43 insightful - 28 fun43 insightful - 27 fun44 insightful - 28 fun -  (11 children)

Are you implying we don't all get together in our jammies and have a super cutesy pillow fight every night?! I am SHOCKED. Shocked, I say.

[–]FediNetizen 33 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Are you familiar with the concept of autogynephilia?

[–]Aquadog 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

"Girls think about themselves in their sexual fantasies, so they're the same as me."

[–]FediNetizen 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually there was a "study" that tried to prove this, but what the guy did is took one of Blanchard's surveys used to gauge AGP and changed the wording around so it applied to females. Except in doing that it also changed the meaning of a lot of the questions, which invalidates the results.

Taken from here

Moser (2009) reported the responses of 29 female hospital employees to his Female Autogynephilia Scale, which used items modified from scales originally devised by Blanchard (1985, 1989b) to measure autogynephilia and related traits (Lawrence, 2010b). About half of respondents reported at least occasional "autogynephilic" arousal. But Moser modified Blanchard's original language on the advice of female colleagues and friends, to better investigate the specifics of their self-reported arousal or to provide "needed context" (Moser, 2010a, p. 694). Consequently, Moser's modified items arguably did not adequately distinguish between being aroused by wearing sexy clothing or by imagining that a potential romantic partner finds one attractive — which natal women apparently do experience — and being aroused simply by the idea that one is wearing women's clothing or has a woman's body — which natal women probably rarely if ever experience (Lawrence, 2010b). Moser (2009) conceded that "It is possible that autogynephilia among MTFs and natal women are different phenomena and the present inventories lack the sophistication to distinguish these differences" (p. 544). Lawrence (2010b) argued that this was probable, on the grounds that Moser's items "fail[ed] to adequately assess the essential element of autogynephilia — sexual arousal simply to the thought of being a female" (p. 3).

[–]yousaythosethings 46 insightful - 12 fun46 insightful - 11 fun47 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

"I don't want to hang out and talk about dysphoria and stuff like that, I just want to be one of the girls".

So they’re saying that trans women aren’t women? Go be one of the girls with your fellow trans girls bro.

[–]Realwoman 59 insightful - 17 fun59 insightful - 16 fun60 insightful - 17 fun -  (2 children)

So she's a straight woman, got it.

[–]madderthanhell 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You're referring to the TIF, right?

[–]Realwoman 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep

[–]lefterfield 52 insightful - 16 fun52 insightful - 15 fun53 insightful - 16 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, so straight woman doesn't want to date women. Fair. Now, can we try this again without the homophobia?

[–]IridescentAnaconda 49 insightful - 15 fun49 insightful - 14 fun50 insightful - 15 fun -  (2 children)

I thought that was just a genitalia fetish. Shouldn't he be "re-examining his preferences", which will surely lead him to the epiphany that male vaginas are !hawt!

[–]moody_ape 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

i like to think that the next response in that twitter thread is "your genital preferencies are transphobic"

[–]FediNetizen 39 insightful - 16 fun39 insightful - 15 fun40 insightful - 16 fun -  (1 child)

The entitlement also reminds me of this comic

[–]Comatoast 37 insightful - 9 fun37 insightful - 8 fun38 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Fucking incels in a nutshell. Most of them could easily have love but they refuse to accept 3D and just resort to waifuism and whining.

[–]PlayCardsNotPeople 42 insightful - 10 fun42 insightful - 9 fun43 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

When she says she's in the closet, I wonder if she's told guy she's dating that he's dating a "guy".

[–]Realwoman 24 insightful - 8 fun24 insightful - 7 fun25 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, is the guy aware that he's gay?

[–]madderthanhell 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The only "she" in the poster's equation is the "transman"

[–]MezozoicGay 40 insightful - 13 fun40 insightful - 12 fun41 insightful - 13 fun -  (2 children)

Funny how transgenders are the most transphobic people there.

[–]pocketknife 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Self-loathing is at the base of all of it.

[–]MezozoicGay 32 insightful - 7 fun32 insightful - 6 fun33 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

As I love to say to them: "If you can't stand yourself or other transwomen, why others must?"

[–]fuck_reddit 33 insightful - 8 fun33 insightful - 7 fun34 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

"Yes, I a gay guy am uncomfortable with someone with the same parts as me" so, almost like they're not HOMOsexual... if only there was a term...

[–]Eurowoman24 32 insightful - 4 fun32 insightful - 3 fun33 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

lmao gay is same-sex attracted. The amount of mental summersaults it takes to deal with these people is hilarious. Someone should have replied "but you're invalidating them as men"

[–]PassionateIntensity 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They've started calling the phrase "same-sex attracted" transphobic on Tumblr. In about a year, the New York Times will be saying it.

[–]Eurowoman24 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

bruh..... wth let them come hard-core for straight men pleaseee then it's game over! ugh hate this

[–]MarkTwainiac 25 insightful - 15 fun25 insightful - 14 fun26 insightful - 15 fun -  (0 children)

Classroom scene in 2020:

Q: Students, how do you spell homophobia?

A: T-R-A-N-S!

[–]PassionateIntensity 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The definition of what gay is makes her uncomfortable, because she's raging heterosexual. We need to go back to not letting straight people get away with calling themselves gay. It's caused so much havoc.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 5 fun24 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

She could have just simplified this by saying "I'm a heterosexual woman".

That said, I don't understand heterosexual TIFs pretending to be gay men. Does anyone who understands their logic have the free time/ability to explain such to me? I would greatly appreciate it.

[–]IAmSatan 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Autohomoeroticism. Basically, they read/watched too much boy love and now wants to become a boy and fall in love with a boy. (not all trans of course)

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Like they read way too much yaoi manga in HS and decided to become "gay trans men" then?

[–]IAmSatan 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yup. And also watched too many gay couples on YouTube, read too much M/M-romance books etc etc.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah gotcha. Thank you for explaining.

[–]IAmSatan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No problem mate! :)

[–]Anna_Nym 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, internalized misogyny and being in overly woke circles where cishets are looked down on. I would be very surprised if the latter is not a factor in the OP's case.

[–]Ossidiana 22 insightful - 9 fun22 insightful - 8 fun23 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

A heterosexual woman calling herself a gay dude for woke points. That's it, internet, you're drunk.

[–]throwawayfuckreddit 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly I feel like the TRA's are happy with this because it's a woman acccepting penis, they only get upset when women don't want penis or straight men don't want penis. The transes don't care about a woman unless she's on their team and accepting penis, even as a "Trans man". If he was saying he's "straight' and only wants cis vagina, I bet you about 20 angry transwomen would be screaming about "Straight Trans men are so transphobic for only wanting to date Cis Straight Women and not transwomen with penises!"

[–]moody_ape 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

wait, what?

[–]FediNetizen 27 insightful - 11 fun27 insightful - 10 fun28 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

It's just as confusing when you listen to the rationale of a trans woman trying to explain how they're a lesbian that isn't interested in trans women.

[–]Comatoast 23 insightful - 13 fun23 insightful - 12 fun24 insightful - 13 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know, but I think that I caught brain damage from it.

[–]muomo 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Um...so heterosexual woman? They basically said, I am (somehow) a man with a vagina (a woman) who gets grossed out at other men with vaginas (women), so I only want to have sex with men? So...straight woman, yes?

[–]yishengqingwa666 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

What a fucking entitled little shithead.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So, she’s straight with a few extra steps?

[–]FuriousPenguin 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I'm extremely confused now. What?!

[–]SharpTomorrow 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

wat? to be fair, "transwomen" (AKA men) also use the same "I'm lesbian, i don't date penises" bullshit.

[–]kwallio 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

The fact that the gay trans man has apparently NO IDEA why the person she is talking to is confused...

[–]dustyboobs90 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What a transphobe.