Can muslim women be GC feminist too?

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[–]weirdthorn 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

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I think GC feminism, from what I read up till now, is very suitable to deconstruct the sexist and misogynist structures build into muslim communities.

How? A lot of the misogynistic stuff is in the Koran itself and the Koran is the word of Allah. How do you want GC-feminism to deconstruct the word of Allah? And then you have the problem of bidah.

Christians and Jews have a better ground for that in the regard that they can claim the misogynistic stuff was written by misogynistic men. The only word of god in the bible are the 10 commandments.

[–]Anna_Nym 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is not true. Jews believe that the Torah is the word of G-d as given to Moses. There are also many prophecies in Haftorah that are the word of G-d.

Believing that the Torah is the literal word of G-d does not mean that all words are interpreted literally or that all Jews believe the Torah should be read as a historical narration of events.

Likewise, the Qor'an is very poetic. It is the revealed word of G-d, but just as in Judaism, there is a lot of room for interpreting the meaning of the words.

[–]ThisReality 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Christians and Jews have a better ground for that in the regard that they can claim the misogynistic stuff was written by misogynistic men. The only word of god in the bible are the 10 commandments.

Many Christians believe that the Bible overall is the Word of God, as written down by men and passed along in oral traditions before that. Challenging those people with the idea that the Bible is in any way not literally God's rules and history of the world is something that often doesn't go well.

[–]immersang 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Bible being "overall" the Word of God and it being "literally" God's rules is hardly the same thing. Yes, there are fundamentalists who believe you have to take everything in the absolute literal sense. But, I'd say most Christians today see it as not being literal, but open to interpretation. And many actually realize that translating it between different languages over thousands of years also had had an impact. Partly accidentally and partly to push an agenda (see: Mary Magdalene was most certainly not a prostitute).

Thing is, there's room for this in Christianity. You might have Evangelicals who loudly proclaim that they are the only ones who do Christianity right, but that doesn't mean that's actually rooted in Christianity itself.

I'm not sure there's room in Islam for anything else but "This is the LITERAL Word of Allah". As far as I know there isn't. But I'm not an expert, so someone else would have to answer that.

[–]weirdthorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Many Christians believe that the Bible overall is the Word of God, as written down by men and passed along in oral traditions before that.

Fundies having certain beliefs and something being a tenent of a faith are two different things. Fundies are averse to reform, but reformers will have an easier way to convince the normal people of their ideas if they can argue that this was just an interpretation of the writers instead of arguing against the word of god.