I'm so fucking done with 'non-binary'

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[–]Pomegranate 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I was listening to one of my idols on a postcast. Extremely skilled, incredibly creative, intelligent woman. Just creates amazing work and is basically the only woman who does it. I didn't know she was non-binary and she started talking about it on the podcast. She was talking about the things that inspired her growing up and how society told her that girls don't like those things. Instead of saying "fuck that, girls can like anything they want" and deciding to break those restrictions, she agreed and said "you're right, I must not actually be a woman, I'm nonbinary" Like she literally said she realized she was nonbinary because she liked so many things that girls aren't "supposed" to like. It was heartbreaking to hear this person that I idolized as one of the few women to succeed in her field say that she's not actually a woman because of it. So disappointing and sad. Just like what you like, don't let society tell you that you're not a real woman because you like x. Or man. You're a man and you like makeup? Great, that doesn't make you a woman, just be a man and wear what you want and break the restrictions that say men can't or don't do that. They're reinforcing stereotypes and saying everyone who said women and men can't like or do x are right.

[–]oyasuminasai50 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The ultimate irony is that enbies think they're smashing the gender binary. But by opting out of the binary, they're leaving the social definitions of man and woman (i.e. THE BINARY) totally unchallenged. Breaking the gender binary would be identifying as a man or woman despite identifying with things traditionally associated with the opposite sex.

[–]Pomegranate 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Exactly. She literally said "and that's how I knew I wasn't a woman" after listing the things she liked and how it was associated with men. So she flat out agreed with them that it's not for women and therefore because she liked it, she's not really a woman. Super fucked up. I just listened to it a few days ago and I'm still so disappointed. I tried to talk to my friend about it who also likes her and she just didn't get it. I don't see how it could be any more clear and obvious.

[–]oyasuminasai50 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Homophobes spent decades telling lesbian, gay, and bisexual people that their sexuality was a choice. So one of the critical values that came up with the LGBT "liberation" movement is that of self-identification. If you say you're this, you are that, full stop. No one should question you, no one should prod, no one should attempt to question your identity.

Unfortunately, with how divided as the culture is today, I'm afraid liberals took it too far in the opposite direction that now any identity that literally anyone can think of is automatically 100% valid. Even if it's a term you made up. Even if you're gender-conforming and heterosexual. Even if your own identities are internally inconsistent.

Now trans people who've endured a lifetime of gender dysphoria have to pretend they're the same as teenagers who until six months ago had no consternation about their gender whatsoever. LGB people have to share a space with any rando straight person who is "queer" for reasons they cannot even articulate.

[–]Pomegranate 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah she's a 35ish year old woman who is married to a man but identifies as LGBT because she "likes boy things"

Hell, was nonbinary even a thing when she was growing up? I'm mid-20s and it wasn't a thing when I was young. 35 seems old af to be saying she knew she was nonbinary when she was a little girl. Wtf. She's also okay with she/her pronouns. ???

[–]oyasuminasai50 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Non-binary certainly wasn't a thing like it is now. I'm forgiving of young teenagers who want to identify as non-binary... but once we get to people in their early 20s and older calling themselves non-binary and / or using they / them pronouns, it's just getting a little cringe-worthy.