'Improve cervical screening for transgender people, says expert' - THIS INSANITY HAS TO STOP

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[–]AreYouSureee 29 insightful - 9 fun29 insightful - 8 fun30 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

I bet if they do start sending TiFs reminders, they’ll be mad about that too. “Why these constant reminders of me being born a woman?! The medical industry are terfs!”

[–]sisterinsomnia 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Why is the trans man angry at the argument that only females get cervical cancer? The word 'female' does not refer to gender identity at all but to biology, though I think this is an attempt to turn it into something equally vacuous as 'woman.'

Also, how can the medical system know that a trans man needs reminders if the trans man has registered as a male person?

[–]sisterinsomnia 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I Googled the doctor mentioned in the story. She is a trans woman who works for Stonewall.

[–]ReapWhirlwinds 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

a transwoman doctor who is "an expert in sexual and reprorductive health."

Holy shit this raised some alarm bells for me, but thankfully he seems to work in trans STD clinics not in obstetrics or gynecology. Transwoman gynaecologist is a nightmare scenario.

[–]DifferentAirGC 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. I've seen a lot of TRAs saying male/female refer to gender, not biology.

[–]crodish 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What are you talking about, no one ever confuses sex and gender /s

[–]ekitten 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The NHS cervical screening page already uses ~inclusive~ language ("all women and people with a cervix aged 25 to 64"). https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/cervical-screening/

Meanwhile (ever so surprisingly!), their prostate cancer screening page does not ("all men", "most men", "some men", "up to 15% of men", "some men", "most men", "men", "reduce a man's chance", "healthy men aged 50 or over", "man aged 50 or over"). https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/prostate-cancer/psa-testing/

Also in this post's link: "If you change your registered gender to male" ... Aren't they always saying not to conflate sex and gender? And they're seriously bothered by "Only females get cervical cancer"? JFC

[–]motionlessoracle 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

For those who don't click the link and read: it's about TIFs who aren't receiving reminders to get a screening. It's not about TIMs.

If any "insanity" must stop, it is in having one single index of a person's birth sex. Doctor's offices need to be asking "what was your birth sex?" and keeping that on file, then using that to generate reminders for smear tests. That way, no matter how many legal fictions are put on passports, the truth exists.

[–]kardamom 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

birth sex isn't really relevant here. relevant is having a cervix, and some women don't have a cervix anymore and therefore don't need these reminders anymore

[–]motionlessoracle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'd imagine that not all TIFs immediately get a hysterectomy. The ones who haven't should probably receive reminders for smear tests until they opt out of them. The system as described is opt out only, meaning women without a cervix can stop receiving the reminders, but those flagged as "men" with a cervix are never sent reminders at all.

I don't believe the gender nonsense, mind you. I just think that if hospitals are going to permit people to register as their genderfeels and not their birth sex, they need to be prepared to offer proper health care regardless.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Doesn't work in Canada. The provincial government is responsible for sending reminders for Pap tests, mammograms and colon cancer screening. So women who call themselves men will not get reminders for Paps and mammograms, and men who call themselves women will get those reminders. And clinics will be so confused. And cancers will get missed and women will die.

[–]Spikygrasspod 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

So... people changed their legal-medical-fiction-sex to male and stopped receiving medical reminders for females. So they pretended they were males and doctors took them seriously and stopped sending them reminders for females. So now doctors should know better--they should know to send reminders to some female men. But wait, saying that only females get cervical cancer is exclusionary, and punching down! So... doctors should know that some male men have cervices. But they should know which male men have cervices as opposed to the others who don't. If only there were a way to distinguish male men and female women with cervices from male men and female women without them! If only we had a word for that! Alas, we shall simply have to send cervical cancer screening reminders to everyone, and trust that cervix-less male men and female women will know not to book appointments in response.