If you ever thought they weren't hateful..

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[–]RevengeOfTheCis 41 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Did you report this?

I feel like if twitter wants to ban hate speech and promotions of violence, one should be able to report posts like this and every single person who liked it.

[–]ekitten 31 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Twitter's hateful conduct policy protects gender and gender identity but not sex.

[–]RevengeOfTheCis 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Holy fucking shit, you're right.

The hateful conduct policy explicitly says "You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, caste, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease." To me, that implies that promoting violence against people for any other reason is apparently permissible.

[–]GCSeedling 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The weird thing is, on these disclaimers you see all the time, the default categories that always go together regardless of site is usually "race, sex, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, etc.". Sex is always stuck in there somewhere, usually in the first 3.

[–]RevengeOfTheCis 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am actually pretty sure "gender" means "sex" in this case since the next one is "gender identity" which means "trans". (I'm sure soon someone will scream tWaNZpHobiA!!! at the word "sexual orientation" and demand it be changed to "genderual orientation", they just haven't noticed it yet lol.)

But when TIMs scream "kill all TERFs", they aren't targeting us for our sex (or "gender"), they're targeting us for our belief in biological facts, which isn't protected.

It's insane.

[–]denverkris 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, see the way it works is that it's ok for people to talk about burning women at the stake, but it's NOT ok to say that males can't be lesbians. That will get you a permaban. How long do you suppose it will be before jack is seen around town sporting a skirt and lippy?

[–]Maeven[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I always report violence on twitter!! Sometimes this even seems to work. Unfortunately it never ends. There's so much of this in the wild.

[–]denverkris 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, see the way it works is that it's ok for people to talk about burning women at the stake, but it's NOT ok to say that males can't be lesbians. That will get you a permaban. How long do you suppose it will be before jack is seen around town sporting a skirt and lippy?

[–]LeyMio 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Twitter has similar double standards with their policy as Reddit. I highly suspect if they would even take any action against things like this.
The Reddit TIM mods have been involved in countless threats of violently beating up women, raping women, sending women to concentration camps, and murdering women. And they are perfectly protected by the admins for "not breaking any rule or policy". Even worse, the site will flag your account for shadow ban because you dare try to report their TIM babies. It is so fucked up. Similarly, Twitter is not a safe platform for voicing any concerns either.

[–]jkfinn 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

For a million more such examples: https://terfisaslur.com/

(this may be a dead link--can't figure out how do insert a link here)

[–]oyasuminasai50 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Summer vacation leaving lots of TRAs with a little too much free time. When is high school back in session?

[–]shveya 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Odd that they don't feel this much malice for the men that are actually violent with TIMs. Around the that JK Rowling made a tweet about menstruators being women, a transwoman's dismembered body was found in Philadelphia's Schuylkill River. Gruesomely murdered and thrown out like trash. Their name was Dominique, but TRAs are too busy cussing out women to shed a tear for Dominique.

[–]Binah17 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yet it's other biological men attacking and killing them.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Add it to the terfisaslur website

[–]yishengqingwa666 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Whoever runs that site needs to add more recent examples. I had someone tell me it's "not convincing" that this is misogynist hate speech and is ongoing since the examples are all at least 4 years old.

[–]FediNetizen 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's just making up excuses at that point. 4 years isn't very long in the scheme of politics.

Twitter did eventually start cracking down on some of the worse examples, so the users wizened up a few years ago and started using simple alterations so their posts wouldn't show up in the filter. Here's an example of a guy advising another user to do the same, and here's another. People are still very much boasting about wanting to kill terfs.

I'm trying to understand her logic though? Does she think all the people that said this stuff a few years ago no longer believe it?

[–]FediNetizen 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Was the title supposed to be a reference to this post, because if so it's a pretty good dunk.

[–]Maeven[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. It's a direct comparison to the kind of mild anger we sometimes express compared to the overt threats and dehumanization they ALWAYS use against us.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That Tweet is beyond gender. Those are statements of violence and hate speech.

[–]cybitch 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, since "punch a nazi" is okay by literally every person in the US it seems, "punch a terf" obviously would be too. People should've shut these lunatics up the moment they started advocating violence against anyone, but it's like that saying "first they came for the ..."