you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]Veneficca 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I agree somewhat, but I see far worse in liberal feminist communities. There tends to be a very condescending "othering" of women of color, and an assumption that all feminists - even all women - are white middle-class+ Americans. Their silence toward TIM's comparisons of black women and TIMs speaks volumes.

I've also seen radfems accused of being racist simply for criticizing Islam or acknowledging that male violence is a global problem, rather than just "cishet white men."

[–]firebird 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

While you are completely right on every point of criticism, it's not actually going to fix anything. Patting ourselves on the back for not being as bad as some other group is not going to improve our own community. Maybe this is my perfectionist nature talking, but I think there's always room for improvement and leading the conversation in a different direction when criticism is brought up is not going to get us there.

[–]Veneficca 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We can address misrepresentations of radical feminism and try to improve at the same time. This post's conversation is about inaccuracies in depictions of radical feminism. I won't be silent when that happens and I will continue to point out liberal feminists' hypocrisy.

[–]firebird 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If those were your intentions, I'm going to be honest and say that they would have come across more clearly if you'd just replied directly to the post instead of to my comment. Especially since at this point I've already made it clear that I agree on everything else, so to me it genuinely felt like you were trying to derail the point I was trying to make.

[–]Veneficca 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry, that wasn't my intention.