German state bans burqas, niqabs in schools

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[–]jkfinn 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

Catholics have never been subject to dress bans, nor have various Protestant sects like the Amish, Shakers, and Quakers so why should Islamic persons, young or old. It just seems part of the long deep western prejudice toward Islam. I would definitely side with that wing of the Green Party that sees these bans as anti-Islam or racist in origin. (Dress traditions are not the same as those that involve physical mutilations, or those demanding the use of force to exact--there’s just no crying need to intervene with outright bans)

[–]loq453 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What mandatory clothing do Catholics have? Mentioning nuns is a strawman, nuns are not average women, they are women who willingly chose to join a monastic order. Monks also have rules about what clothes they can wear, so it is not a sex based rule, it is a monastic order rule.

[–]Complicated-Spirit 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This. A nun is not a child. I don’t understand why sometimes I’ve seen children as young as toddlers in hijab. If the point is to make the female body less sexual to a man (the woman’s responsibility, of course, so she can take the blame if he assaults her), is that saying that even a child’s body is sexual, so long that it is female? It is that important to drive home to a girl child, from her earliest age, that she must cover her body to disallow men from seeing it - and if they do, it’s on her? That’s what’s fucked up.

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' I’ve seen children as young as toddlers in hijab '

That freaked me out, especially since I saw this in a tropical climate country. It's child abuse under such conditions.

' is that saying that even a child’s body is sexual '

Cue all those Islam and pedophilia jokes.

[–]MezozoicGay 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I read Quran and supportive books few times two decades ago, and there is legalized marriage on girls from age of 5-7, and sex is allowed after puberty is ended (in some communities after puberty has started), so it is around 12-16 (and 8-10 for other communities) years. And in some cases sex can be performed even with younger girls if "it will not injure wife". And there were something about that man must feel good first and then only woman, so FGM seems to come from here, even thought it is not mentioned in Quran and most likely even against it, yet FGM is used so "man will always feel good first". And yes, it is always "woman fault" if men are aroused by her presence. I may not remember details, but in broad case it is like that.