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[–]weirdthorn 45 insightful - 4 fun45 insightful - 3 fun46 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Neither of the communities you listed obscures their face and the face is important for human interaction. Niqab and burqa make women faceless.

Btw, the concept behind that: awrah aka intimate parts. For men it's the area between navel and knee, for women everything except face and hands. Basically according to Islam women are walking genitals.

[–]sisterinsomnia 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There's an inherent conflict between religious rights and women's rights when the religion itself is misogynist (and most are, I think). Religious rights argue that every woman belonging to a certain religion must be allowed to present as submissive etc. as she (or her family) desires, while the women's rights try to point out that the initial reason for some religious rule lies in pure misogyny, often in the idea that women's bodies are all about sex and that it is women who are responsible if men are attracted to those bodies. From the latter angle different religious dress codes for men and women can be sexist, and certainly are if the way women are expected to dress also handicaps them physically, makes it harder for them to communicate with others or to operate cars or machinery, makes it more likely that they die of heat exhaustion and so on.

[–]Lilith_Fair 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Religious rights argue that every woman belonging to a certain religion must be allowed to present as submissive etc. as she (or her family) desires,

This is the one of the biggest gaslighting of all time. Women: "We have the right to have our rights taken away."

[–]DimDroog 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm so tired of it.

I just left a cult, that calls itself Buddhist, and even there women are second tier.

[–]Killer_Danish 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My eyes were really opened up to the nefarious side of Buddhism when I learned about the persecution of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by the Buddhist majority.

Really, ANY major religion hands girls and women the short end of the stick or more...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Okay. Can’t keep them straight.