To all of you trans ladies out there

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[–]Spikygrasspod 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Beautiful and brave, just not women. Men. And that's okay. Also, arguments are valid in which the conclusion follows from the premises. I don't know what valid humans are though.

[–]bellatrixbells 37 insightful - 6 fun37 insightful - 5 fun38 insightful - 6 fun -  (10 children)

I think it's unfair to call them men. They are males, and therefore not women, that is something I'll get behind, but I think calling them trans women instead is a very fair compromise. I mean, given that they go through everyday life as women and are treated as such by most of the people they encounter, they are in fact somewhere in between. They should not take our place, and neither of them wants to, but I think it's kind of in bad faith to just call them men.

[–]notdelusional 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Lying is not compromise. Adding a prefix doesn't make it a truth.

[–]bellatrixbells 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's not lying. Those people are indeed trans. And given that they are males who transitioned into presenting themselves as women, I mean it's just a different thing. They're not women, but in many ways they are not exactly men either. I don't know.

[–]yishengqingwa666 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

They are still men, and will be until death. Men cannot become any kind of woman. Ever.

[–]notdelusional 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Correct. Promoters of the transgender concept are trying redefine the parameters of the term 'woman' to include the male sex into the collective consciousness. This way they could claim it's not an untruth on a technicality. It's very slippery and cunning. Unfortunately "well meaning" people aren't thinking critically about this issue and end up passively promoting this nonsense. Everybody knows that the term woman has included female as a fundamental requirement. It wasn't broken.

[–]bellatrixbells 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hmm I don't think I'm unable to think critically.b It's just that I've dealt with people who had several issues relating to cognitive dissonance and I know it's no use reminding them all the time.

[–]notdelusional 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sometimes insisting on the truth is hard work.

[–]bellatrixbells 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And pointless too when the other person is just doing their best.

[–]notdelusional 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The truth always has purpose. Considering it pointless is an excuse for weakness.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right, but if society can agree that the prefix "trans" in polite essence does just mean 'pretend'...ah well, then there's still the issue of single-sex spaces.

[–]notdelusional 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Deception is untruth. Giving a label (trans) to a lie doesn't make it a truth.