To all of you trans ladies out there

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[–]Irascible-harpy 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, they absolutely do not "go through everyday life as women". They weren't socialized as women. They don't have female reproductive organs. They experience life as trans identifying men, not women, and that's the whole freaking point!

[–]bellatrixbells 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I understand what you're saying. I know this isn't a popular opinion on here, but I do believe that reasonable TIMs could get the courtesy of being referred to as "trans women", since they're not being dicks (pun intended) about it. The reason I'm definitely less inclined to do this is all the other TIMs, but then that's why I'm saying it sucks that those who are actually dysphoric and are just trying to get by are suffering consequences. I don't know if I'm making sense, regardless of whether you agree with me or not.

[–]yishengqingwa666 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

NATALT. Sure.

I am not giving misogynist males any kind of courtesy.

[–]Irascible-harpy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I understand what you're saying. I don't particularly care about them being referred to as transwomen but I reject using female pronouns. I reject the idea of catering to someone's mental illness, particularly one so steeped in sexist ideas. The idea that your rejection of your body and your gender somehow makes you the opposite sex or agender or non-binary... as though gender is real and immutable is absurd.

[–]bellatrixbells 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My own stance usually relates to my having been close to schizophrenic patients who suffered from severe delusions. Say you have a patient who thinks there's a clown standing next to you. If they've had proper therapy and are on the right meds they might still see the clown, but they know it's not really there. Sure, you shouldn't be catering by validating the existence of the clown, but constantly reminding them that there is no clown is not gonna solve the issue that they still see one and it's just gonna make them feel shitty.
That's my stance with GD.