Who are some trans people you get along with/admire?

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[–]moonlightascending 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't necessarily have an issue with people who're transgender in the sense that I recognize that dysphoria is a mental illness and as someone with mental illness understand it's very hard to cope with and people are usually willing to do whatever it takes to make it better. I have an issue with the fact that the "solution" being marketed to teens and young adults is irreversible surgeries and medications, and that the loudest of these individuals tend to be rather misogynistic and enjoy telling lesbians how to behave and who to date.

to answer your question, I like and agree with Blair White on a surprising number of issues, and follow Rose of Dawn as well.

I have a few friends who're "nonbinary", "gender fluid", etc. and I still love them, I just don't agree with their "gender identity". however, the people I'm friends with aren't the ones screaming that lesbians need to suck girldick and that not dating TIMs is a hate crime. they're surprisingly pretty chill.

[–]quickbeam[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I totally get how the loudest voices in a movement can really sour people on a movement when they are calling for things that deny other people's rights or sense of safety. In looking for positive influences, I'm hoping that we can do better than many of the loudest trans rights voices and present a group that is open and welcoming for all people who want safe and scientific approaches to gender dysphoria and sensible approaches to taking women's rights fully into account when considering trans rights.

[–]Irascible-harpy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We are not an open and welcoming group to all people. If we were we wouldnt be a feminist space. The fastest way to kill a women's group is to open it to men and antifeminists.

[–]quickbeam[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one is saying men or anti-feminists need to be welcomed with open arms. But one can engage in rational disagreement while still retaining a respect for the basic humanity of individuals within a group. I think that's well worth remembering. And that was the purpose of my post. Many people do not want to be associated with groups or schools of thought that they perceive to be hateful or discriminatory. I don't think the majority of gender critical feminists are either of these, but if those voices become the loudest, it will hurt feminism and kill the movement much faster than being open or welcoming would.