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[–]Aquadog 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Sometimes I think the transgender community is more misogynistic than heavily Christian communities. At least Christians don't call female reproductive organs "inner organs" or women and girls have the right to female-only spaces.

[–]uwubunny 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

There are important differences.

First, there are very few if any religions which find the existence of anyone who doesn't believe integrally offensive to them. Even medieval Christians tolerated the existence of Jewish people (between pogroms). Even fucking ISIS didn't forcibly convert Christians when they took over towns. However, transgenders do. Anyone who doesn't believe and say the pronouns is the enemy. So transgender people are less tolerant than any current religion in the world, and intolerant on a par with the worst of medieval Christianity.

Second, transgenders are the most misogynistic group of people in human history, and it's not close. The Taliban have more respect for the existence of women as an ontological category than transgenders do. So does ISIS. Transgenders are the only group of people who are not just anti-feminist, but against the notion of even having language to describe feminism.

So there is a solid case to be made for transgenders being the least tolerant and most misogynist people, ever.

[–]Feather 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Good points. And I hate to say anything to praise them, but even people at the Westboro church are happy to talk to their enemies like normal people. Most people don't know this, but they let journalists and religious studies professors come around to hang out and talk and debate and interview them, and they're polite during these interactions. It's part of why their kids keep leaving the church: their kids are allowed to see these other points of view.

There are some "enemies" with whom they have had respectful relationships for years and are apparently actually fond of.

[–]uwubunny 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I believe it's a combination of a totalitarian world view and power.

For groups that are as illiberal as fundamentalists and transgender activists, free speech is just a tactic to propagate themselves if they're out of power, to be discarded as soon as they get the upper hand. The Nazis used free speech to defend themselves until they gained power, and then it was lights out on their enemies.

If every university, corporation, state government, etc supported Westboro, I've got no doubt they'd be as bad as the TRAs.

[–]Feather 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's an important point. Yeah, you're probably right.

Fortunately that won't happen since they don't seem to want anyone who isn't part of their family/hasn't married into their family to actually join their church.

[–]DistantGlimmer 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They are more comparable to Pol Pot and other extreme Maoists. They do not view ideological enemies as worthy of "saving" simply as impediments to "progress" who must be silenced as part of the permanent revolution. Yes, most of them haven't literally killed anyone but I have no doubt that your average TRA would if they thought they could get away with it. It's a horrid ideology and yes, while religions have plenty of misogynistic parts only trans ideology is entirely predicated on misogynistic ideas. Especially autogynephilia.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And in turn Pol Pot got many of his ideas - from erasing history and declaring a new "year zero" to his/the Khmer Rouge belief that a virtuous society could only be made out out of a campaign terror and mass murder - from Robespierre and the French revolution. It's not an accident that Cambodia was colonized by the French, or that Pol Pot got his education and spent his early adulthood in Paris.

[–]uwubunny 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good comparison. There is a weird nexus between extreme leftist politics and transgenderism, as all the transgenders in antifa show. And since we seem to be in a rerun of 1968 the left in the US have quite a relevant history of violence. The number of people murdered by a very small population of transgenders is also alarmingly large. Walter Miller and Dana Rivers were both MtF murderers of women, and the Zodiac Killer and Ed Gein were both obviously AGP among others. There have also been several spree killings by FtMs. With the violent anti-feminist rhetoric on Twitter spiralling into new heights of paranoia and hatred I'm worried it's just a matter of time before someone from the uwu brigade tries to massacre women like the dangerous mentally ill incels they are.

[–]DistantGlimmer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're absolutely right. I used to be big into reading true crime and the amount of killers that were obvious AGP and started with shit like stealing panties to wear (to the point where FBI profilers would lecture local cops to take it seriously when they found a teenaged boy doing that) is uncanny.

It's also true that they whole far left is infected with this "ironic" violent rhetoric and it is making moderates and centrists very uncomfortable which is only going to help Trump get in again I'm afraid.

[–]Aquadog 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very eye-opening; thanks for your comment!

[–]catoboros 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are many cases of religious minorities being murdered for their beliefs. I would list all the cases but do not want to stoke intolerance. TRAs are, as far as I know, not yet murdering any one. No need to gild the lily.