TIF whining because gay men behave like gay men

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[–]NDG 36 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Honestly, I feel kind of bad for her. She’s delusional - yeah, gay guys are TOTALLY going to want to have sex with a vaguely masculine woman with breasts and a vagina 🙄 - but I feel bad anyway.

[–]RadioSilence 38 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Personally I don't, this is precisely the sort of entitlement lesbians see from TIM's. Gays and lesbians are not going to have sex with the opposite sex.

[–]NDG 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

To me, it’s the Carrie-at-the-prom contrast of, “Come on, I know they’ll accept you!” and flat-out obvious rejection. She sounds more out of touch with reality than entitled.

[–]Feather 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think you're right. Even her gut was telling her not to go but her "friend" coaxed her into it by repeatedly insisting she'd fit in and people there would be attracted to her.

I think the friend is probably a bit of a sadist, but maybe this could be a wakeup call for her. Or maybe I'm just too much of an optimist.

[–]ImPiqued1111111 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I have some sympathy because I feel like TIFs tend to pass more than TIMs. So if she was clocked at this party before she undressed, she is really not passing at all. Her friend invited her, and when she wasn't sure, her friend insisted it would be fine and the party would be "inclusive". And then when it wasn't fine for her at all, he insisted she stay. This whole thing obviously really messed with her head, and her friend never should have put her in this position.

I tend to have a bit more sympathy for young TIFs, for all the reasons outlined by Shrier. They're a vulnerable group.

It was definitely inappropriate for her to be there, but I sort of feel like she was conned into it.

[–]Feather 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree.

I finished reading Shrier's book. It was so appalling. I had no idea how much trans stuff many kids are being fed even in elementary school or that so many colleges will prescribe testosterone at someone's first "therapy" appointment.

It caused me to ask my daughter if she'd been exposed to the stuff mentioned in the book and she told me she'd been exposed to ALL of it. She said that about a quarter of her girl friends had "come out" as trans at some point and then taken it back a few months later. I was relieved to discover she had a sane view of it though. We had a really good, nuanced discussion.

[–]Amareldys 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah her friend is an asshole