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[–]vitunrotta 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Was this on The Guardian somewhere? This cutting of jobs and dying because of radfems? Any links? (Trust me, I think the site is as biased as any - but I still want the facts ;))

[–]inneedofspace[S] 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

It's all unfolding on twitter the music editor of gaurdian who signed a petition to silence one of the women editors asked that people continue to support the news platform is now backtracking due to so many comments about his denial of biology. I'm trying to find the specific tweets blaming terfs (too lazy to use imgur). To be fair there are (fewer) people calling guardian transphobic and blaming that for the lost.

Edit: Here's the a quote: "To the cis women who feel betrayed by the Guardian's coverage of trans issues: I'm genuinely saddened to have lost you as everyone working here wants to fight misogyny, sexism and patriarchal power/bullshit. (5/10)"

And another: "I signed the letter in the wake of Suzanne Moore's column because I thought she mis-characterised the fight for trans rights as denying women's rights. I respect debate and part of that is calling out something I don't agree with. She isn't silenced, nor would I want that."

[–]Spikygrasspod 28 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, what a coincidence. I withdrew my support for them after seeing their lovely 'neutral' coverage of JKRowling. I told them to shove it.

[–]vitunrotta 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh god, I am not on Twitter, I don't know how things escalated and because of what. If you would provide me with a bit more context? And link the tweets? Much appreciated :)

[–]inneedofspace[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sorry, I just edited the above comment for more context here it is again.

Edit: Here's the a quote from one of guardians editors: "To the cis women who feel betrayed by the Guardian's coverage of trans issues: I'm genuinely saddened to have lost you as everyone working here wants to fight misogyny, sexism and patriarchal power/bullshit. (5/10)" And another: "I signed the letter in the wake of Suzanne Moore's column because I thought she mis-characterised the fight for trans rights as denying women's rights. I respect debate and part of that is calling out something I don't agree with. She isn't silenced, nor would I want that."

I wanted to post screenshots but I'm using a new computer that isn't really user friendly. Here's the link. https://twitter.com/ben_bt

[–]vitunrotta 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I respect debate

...is something that a true TRA would never say seriously. :D Thanks for the added context/links. I found one of their writers (Owen Jones) always completely unbearable, even before this TRA/superwoke - wave.

Oh and, from Ben Beaumont-Thomas' Twitter account (lurkers will lurk...), this beautifully put sentence: "I never denied biological reality; I supported valid gender identity in the face of hostility to it. I want all women to be safe and have a voice." So which is it? You didn't deny biology OR you supported gender ideology? Because it cannot fucking be both. Come on Ben, enough of that Kool Aid. You went to a goddamn university (I presume!) to become a JOURNALIST and this utter trite is what you write? Shame. SHAME.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're not debating. You are dictating to women from a position of entitled ignorance in a manner entirely representative of the sexism of those who don't understand feminism, won't listen to women, and won't try and understand why what they're saying is sexist.

You can stand by what you re saying. You are going to destroy the once venerable institution you work for with this arrogance and contempt and we'll all be sad about it. But there's nothing we can do. Because you plainly have not one whit of interest in understanding the problem.

One of the top replies to above.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://twitter.com/ben_bt/status/1283704333977223169

The ten points of mansplaining womenhood by a misogynist