When men are better at being women then women.

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[–]MezozoicGay 57 insightful - 8 fun57 insightful - 7 fun58 insightful - 8 fun -  (7 children)

never go on estrogen

Does this person know that "cis women" are on huge doses of naturally produced estrogens since birth? And that main women hormones are not estrogens but progestogens?

[–]MezozoicGay 37 insightful - 4 fun37 insightful - 3 fun38 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

And in general, this whole post leaves same impression on me as some MRA cryign about hard life of men with their "Do women need to suffer with shaving their beard every day?!". Forgetting that women are forced to shave whole body, that women have periods, can get pregnant, forced to do makeup for hours, and so on. Daily spending hours on this useless stuff. While daily shaving beard takes literally 2-3 minutes and for it exist a ton of equipment, while for women cases there almost nothing specific (my sister is using expensive men razor for her needs, as it is much better than similar priced women one).

[–]ladyreason 29 insightful - 12 fun29 insightful - 11 fun30 insightful - 12 fun -  (3 children)

Many of us have been on daily estrogen for years trying to fool our biology into not letting us get pregnant. Does that make us more womany or less? I'm going to need a spreadsheet.

[–]meranii 11 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

You expect the TIMs, uh sorry I mean "real women", to actually know what's in medication that us fake women take? Or anything about regular biological functions of someone born female? Psh, that's not fun and sexy like knee-high stockings or colorful wigs are!

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 9 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

It depends on if you've had laser or not, apparently

[–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Point per every gender stereotypical behaviour or looks. From 0 to 100. And if you wear "men cloths" - automatically disqualified, because then you are men or transmen.

Or maybe "Bingo", with more lines crossed around sexist stereotypes and transwomen traits - the more woman you are: https://i.imgur.com/fkPPEn0.png (I wonder if any actual women can be a woman by this one)

[–]jet199 26 insightful - 5 fun26 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

They don't know hrt was invented for women.

[–][deleted] 43 insightful - 10 fun43 insightful - 9 fun44 insightful - 10 fun -  (3 children)

Never getting laser = never knowing true womanhood. Who knew.

[–]Eurowoman24[S] 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

women do get laser on their legs for example.. so are these ones trans? are they women compared to those who don't?

[–]Delia 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have had laser on my chin so not sure what this person is talking about.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure this person even knows what he's talking about.

[–]WhyDoesHeDoThat 44 insightful - 3 fun44 insightful - 2 fun45 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

I think that guy is trying to troll but many TIMs have the same mentality. This is why I don't understand handmaidens kissing the asses of these men. They look down on women. They will never view their handmaidens as an equal. They think women's understanding of womanhood and feminism is inferior. Men will always view themselves as smarter, wiser and more knowledgable compared to women simply by being born male. Because men hate women and this doesn't magically go away just because the man has a gender identity.

And yes they do get angry when a woman doesn't view herself or her opinion as inferior. Even worse, when she doesn't care about his opinion at all and values her own opinion above everyone elses. The woman who doesn't defer to men have always been viewed as a hostile invader in patriarchy.

[–]venecia 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

What I want to know is why transwomen get to deny having male privilege in the oppression olympics. I thought libfem was supposed to be intersectional? In this case, their male privilege is telling them they know how to be women better than women themselves, because their brains are superior.

I'm sure plenty of white people would like to know how you get one of these get-out-of-accountability cards!

[–]meranii 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Being a transwoman is basically the trump card they use against badly informed intersectional feminists, there is apparently no greater oppression in life than to be a dumpy middle aged guy who likes to jerk off while wearing women's panties and lipstick. If transmen are ever talked about (they rarely are unless it's to invalidate female only spaces), suddenly it's verboten to mention internalized misogyny as a reason for their transition or to imply that once they pass as men, they make use of male privilege for their own gain, despite both concepts being generally accepted for "cis" people.

[–]MezozoicGay 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

According to their own videos and reports, biggest their oppression is someone not wanting their girldick and someone misgendering them. And biggest their problem of "being a woman" is to select better dress.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You get it by claiming gender nonbinary and telling kids to trans up their kids, or that's what things lately are alluding to.

[–]Eurowoman24[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

He might be but with everything I've seen lately it's getting harder and harder to tell.

[–]trannychaser 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He's not trolling. He really believes what he's saying.

[–]loq453 30 insightful - 9 fun30 insightful - 8 fun31 insightful - 9 fun -  (4 children)

Men being better women than women was literally a 4chan meme when Bruce Jenner won the woman of the year award.

[–]ladyreason 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

I remember thinking "but they haven't even BEEN a woman for a year and they've already outwomanned us all? What are the rest of us doing wrong?!"

[–]sisterinsomnia 21 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Not agonizing over what to wear every morning, I guess. That is the hardest thing about being a woman, Jenner said at the time.

That and the Lily Madigan debacle in the UK were my first peak experience. Madigan was voted in as the Constituency Labor Party Women's Officer in Rochester and Strood in 2017, despite being nineteen years old at that time and, I think, having transitioned only a year before. So I learned that being a woman is so incredibly easy that the whole sex can be easily represented by a teenager born male with just a few months' experience in womaning. The open and blatant contempt that both these events demonstrate toward the actual life experiences of female people is something else!

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Peak male privilege.

[–]meranii 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Crazy that when he turned himself into a wannabe-woman, I thought he was somehow an exception for being so self-obsessed, shallow and highly conservative, that he didn't seem to represent the trans community at all. It was before I peaked. It took me paying attention to what other TRAs are saying to figure out, nope, this fucker is the exact kind of representation that community deserves. That he got a whole tv show about his transition and so many interviews that tried to paint him in a positive light pisses me off.

[–]AscendingOrder 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

I think he's attempting a joke, but lots of them have started saying "women and ciswomen" so it's the kind of thing that starts off as a joke until it... isn't. They do think like this, they hate us this much.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

Transwomen are women, cis women are uterus owners /s

[–]les4les 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Much like neovaginas are vaginas and vaginas are front holes

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That one drives me crazy. Like, my vagina is not in front and it's also not a hole. Whereas we can see on surgeons' own websites that "neovaginas" are literally holes and are literally in front.

[–]lavender_menace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

they are? But that is anatomically incorrect. Now I am afraid to go and take a look. I don’t want to be scarred for life.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it's how they advertise their services and it's really awful. You might want some liquid courage before looking.

[–]Eurowoman24[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I can't tell who's trolling anymore. Not all of them are like this I'm sure but the hate is overwhelming

[–]Maly_Querent 25 insightful - 6 fun25 insightful - 5 fun26 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

It is as if i am being consumed by a quiet rage

[–]limeindecoconut 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Something like this was one of my peak moments. TIMs don't want to be women too, they want to take womanhood as their own and kick everyone else out.

[–]sisterinsomnia 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I think they want to be the ones who define womanhood so that it is being very feminine, liking pink and sparkles, liking submission, makeup and so on. The parts which will be removed are anything to do with the female body.

[–]Wrencer 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Funny also how when a trans woman happens to be a good artist, there are always reactions like "she's so talented, ofc she's trans"

[–]Eurowoman24[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

click on the title for the picture ;)

[–]venecia 17 insightful - 16 fun17 insightful - 15 fun18 insightful - 16 fun -  (0 children)

I'd rather not, I'm afraid of clowns

[–]questioningtw 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How delusional can you get? Honestly, I am fine with calling trans women trans women. But they will never know what it is completely like to be a woman, and it is the same thing with trans men and men. and THIS is why I have a huge problem with the modern movement, and non with say trans activists in the 70s, 80s and 90s. They understood that they may feel like they were born in the wrong body and may have a very atypical personality, but they didn't pretend they were no different then regular men and women~

[–]Eurowoman24[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this reflects my thoughts 100%

[–]Lyssa 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This. I have zero interest in insisting to call any trans woman a trans identified male and use male pronouns. I save this for the fraudsters, sex offenders etc. because it's important to not let them muddy statistical data and enter facilities were they endanger women. If a trans woman just wants to live her life in peace and quite: happy to use her chosen name and female pronouns. Just like I don't refer to somebody who changed their last name in marriage with their old name or to anybody who changed his or her name for any other reason. I would not change any part of my name and have not done so when marrying but that does not mean I cannot respect a different choice.

I do however draw the line as using my mental bandwith to remember made up pronouns, call myself "cis" or pretent that TWAW. And I will not help abusers and criminals to hide behind the word and identity "woman" when they are very clearly typical male abusers/criminals.

[–]inneedofspace 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess this is where I say what about intersex women, do they not know menopausal women exist, what about the millions of women on childbirth, what about the millions of women who get get laser surgery to please their men? Not all transwomen do hrt why can't you accept women are mtf too. Except it's not funny and not as fun because this feels like a psa instead of a joke transwomen obviously don't know shit about being a woman and here's the evidence.

[–]quickbeam 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This might be the stupidest thing I've ever read. And that includes Trump's tweets...

[–]Thatstealthygal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think that's them poking fun at the terves to be fair.

[–]Delia 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Whatever, meanwhile somewhere around the world babies are born who came into the world in the usual way.....

[–]Delia 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A women could have ten kids but you are the better woman right? In your mind.

[–]critical_of_WR 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did the TIM delete his post?