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[–]Badmammajamma 45 insightful - 1 fun45 insightful - 0 fun46 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I’ve worked with ASD folks in therapy, and many of them have said they take things at face value, they don’t see the hidden motives behind what people are trying to do. They can’t imagine why someone would appear helpful yet harbor a secret agenda to actually be harmful. I don’t know if that’s true for you, but for the folks I’ve known it has caused them to get into terrible relationship and other social situations.

[–]blahblahgcer 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

As an autistic person, thsi is so true. I'm the most gullible person on the planet.

[–]RestingWitchface 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a problem for me too. I have been in abusive relationships and friendships because I didn't see the warning signs. Then I stay in those relationships because I don't know how to get out of them. Before I was diagnosed, I had a minor existential crisis because I felt really isolated and didn't know who I could trust. It was really difficult for me to make friends because people keep saying things they don't mean and I can't tell the difference (e.g. "Let's go for coffee sometime!" But then avoid making an actual date...). I couldn't understand why I was being treated that way and I saw it as really dishonest and flaky.

As a teen, I think I would have been very vulnerable to this ideology, had it been popular in my day. I didn't fit in socially and was bullied for a time. I was not interested in stereotypically feminine things. My friends at school were all quirky, nerdy, tomboy types (a few have since come out as lesbians, though I am straight). Even now, I find it very difficult to befriend women. All my closest friends are male. It's not that I don't want to be friends with women, but they don't want to be friends with me. Men feel so much more straightforward to interact with, and they don't read into every little thing that I say (usually I say exactly what I mean and mean what I say, but NTs always manage to find hidden subtext that isn't there).

[–]RoundFrog[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is definitely true for me! I’ve been in an emotionally abusive relationship before so now I know more about how to spot manipulators. But it’s still difficult. And I see so many manipulation tactics by TRAs like gaslighting. Eg they will say “no one said lesbians have to sleep with trans women” but they do say it all the time.

[–]PainfulTruthsMatter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's so very true. I don't think a lot of people realize that the transgender movement basically has no reason to stop lying to its adherents because the more all of them can enforce their new normal, the more all of them get to live safely inside their bubble where nothing challenges their newfound, special identities. Even small concessions, such as accepting that a man who identifies as trans and thinks they are a "lesbian" is really still just a heterosexual male and thus won't be eligible for the affections of true lesbians, would threaten their status quo and therefore must be eliminated on sight. That's why they've invested time and effort in spreading homophobia in their "genital preferences/fetish" rhetoric.