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[–]worried19 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your story. I've always said that if I'd been born 10 or even 5 years later, I may have found myself in the same position.

When I was entering puberty, transgender people were still "born in the wrong body" transsexuals. I specifically thought to myself in middle school that I couldn't be trans because I didn't hate my body. At that time, there was no large movement of transgender preteens or teens appearing in the mainstream and certainly no encouragement that someone could be trans without genital dysphoria.

It concerns me greatly that young girls are being encouraged to think of themselves as trans when so many of them are simply gender nonconforming, lesbian, traumatized, autistic, or just hate society's pornified view of women and the accompanying rigid gender roles.

[–]courage2courage 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The idea of an 11yo hanging out on Reddit gives me the fear.

I'm glad you came out the other side with the knowledge that girls can be with girls and that it doesn't make them boys. Thank you for sharing your story and please continue to do so. Your generation is being hit the hardest right now and the world desperately needs to hear stories like yours.

[–]SillyGoose[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In hindsight, I should not have been on Reddit when I was that young. My parents never really restricted my internet access or taught me about safe internet use though, from what I remember. I originally joined for the LEGO subreddits, only to find my way to the trans ones. Thank you.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I think my niece is on there. She has had completely unrestricted screen time since she was about nine or ten.

[–]MadLass 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Its awful. Ive seen the extremely young kids posting their photos all over the trans subreddits and Im still in absolute shock of that. I figured there had to of been at least a 16 (still icky) or 18+ rule but NONE of them did. These are the same kids posting in egg_irl. Can someone tell me how our subs were banned while the obvious grooming of young children in the trans cult is acceptable? One side I promise is doing actual harm.

[–]venecia 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sorry to derail a bit, but can you or someone who knows tell me what the hell is up with the name of that subreddit? ''Egg_irl'' like wut

[–]Asplenium 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Egg means they haven't hatched yet (ie come out as the transwoman/transman they are supposed to be...). Irl just stands for "in real life", there are a load of subreddits with that in the name.

[–]venecia 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

they haven't hatched yet

Here I thought it was something more clever/less stupid. We memed so much better in my day. Thanks!

[–]Asplenium 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, but the average age on there is probably pretty low, even with all the groomers. Can't blame the tweens for not knowing better 🙄

[–]madderthanhell 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You write very well and tell your important story powerfully. Thank you for sharing it.

[–]blackrainbow 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think we need more lesbian representation, especially more butch lesbians. I'm from an older generation and I was the same as you, a tomboy girl with no desire to marry a man later in life. Thinking about it now, I was lucky to have a bit of representation back then like Tatu (I know they were fake, but they became useful for me) or the L word so I know that there were girls like me somewhere. I'm a bit worried about newer generation because lesbians have been erased again. Butches have disappeared, they all are 'non-binary' or trans now, this is crazy. You can be a lesbian and a tomboy and there's nothing wrong, girls should learn that!

[–]MezozoicGay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lesbians have been erased again

In all news lesbians are just represented as "queer women", like "lesbian" is a swear word or something.

[–]Veronica 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I went through a similar experience: I've always been a tomboy while growing up and puberty was a shock for me. (Now I can recognize that the disgust I felt for my body was due to moralism, internalized misogyny and the fact that puberty can be challenging to anyone) When I was 14 I told my best friend that I was accepting of trans people and, even if I wasn't trans myself, having breasts was making me feel uncomfortable and I didn't want them. (I also looked for binders online) At that time I didn't know much about the concept of gender identity/disphorya and I thought that the only way to be trans was to undergo all kinds of treatments and surgeries to completely modify the body. I didn't want this for myself but, If I had know about the existence of puberty blockers and if I had been exposed to a certain kind of gender ideology, I am 100% sure that I would have started identifying as "masculine non-binary" or some other shit and I would have wanted to try blockers to stop periods and the developing of my breasts. Needless to say, after a few months I underwent a deep internal change of my beliefs/personality/philosophy of life. I completely stopped feeling repulsed by my body and its functions and I became 100% confident about it. It's a relief to know that other girls went though a similar experience because it makes me feel less alone and I can recognize that we've been very lucky to escape certain consequences. But at the same time it's freaking scary. That's what makes me feel so empathetic towards detransitioners and I'm happy that JK Rowling is talking about it: the detransitioners stories she's been sharing made me literally cry and think "Me too, sister, I've felt the same way too".

[–]Badmammajamma 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your story. It’s important to have voices like yours telling about these experiences. Teenagerhood is a time of exploring your identity, and not everything you think you are one day will be the same the next. I’m glad you took time to explore and think about these things before taking actions. And now you’ll have the knowledge going forward to ask critical thinking questions about why people are so invested in getting you to do something in the future.

[–]SameOldBS 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I was absolutely convinced that the root of my problems could be traced to my sex."

Unfortunately, that's true for pretty much all women, and it's a hard thing to come to terms with. Transgenderism seems to offer girls an easy way out of that - if you can't beat them, join them. From what I've read, you were a textbook example of the kind of girl who is vulnerable to this ideology, so I applaud you for having the foresight and courage to see through it. I wish you every happiness.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so very glad you were able to extricate yourself from those pressuring you to transition, and begin to come into a better and more authentic understanding of who you really are. Good work!

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you for posting about your experience. I'm glad you came through it OK. You sound very wise. My niece is only twelve and is "out" as "enby" (pronouns are he/him or they/them, anything but female). She's definitely being a cool kid with a huge following. What happens when she grows out of it? I worry she'll lose all her friends.

[–]SillyGoose[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

With the way things are at my school, things are kind of split between a majority of conservative people who are not accepting of outsiders, and recently the "woke" people have become a group. I don't know how they would react to someone who changed their minds, since I never publicly identified as trans. I do know that sometimes the more "woke" people have made me feel a little awkward, since I've been asked already if I am nonbinary or "not a girl" relatively recently. It definitely seems to be "cooler" to identify as nonbinary or "pan", and I have yet to meet any girls who are just lesbians or "tomboys" like me at school, although I'm not open about that. I hope that your niece is able to come to terms with herself, since 12 is very young to be deciding anything like that.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for your insight. I was never in any peer groups or anything when I was young, and with no kids of my own I have no idea what goes on in teen culture. This helps a lot. And again I'm happy for you that you're finding your way through all this.

[–]questioningtw 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Welcome! Join the dark side, we have cookies! On a more serious note, adults need to be more aware of what their kids are doing online. Children today have access to way to much entertainment and parents should focus on getting them into actual hobbies--but that is a rant for another time. Strangers on the internet telling people that they probably really are trans are being incredibly irresponsible. And if there are adults doing this they are being predatory. Being a tomboy really is not that unusual and being a lesbian does not make anyone trans! Gah! Why are these communities so adamant that they are doing nothing wrong when they obviously are?

[–]SillyGoose[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. I think my parents never cared about what I did online because I've always been a "good" kid who has hobbies, extracurriculars, and good grades, so they just assumed I would know not to be an idiot. I think that the people who had told me I was trans were both children like me and adults, since I had some saying they "wished they knew when they were that young" and others who told me they were of a similar age. I wish I remember my username at the time to look at what exactly I was told, but the account has definitely been lost to time.